Leolf-KT

There's no need for hybrids if 2 Cleric are better than a Cleric + SW/Chanter.

But that's not the concept of balance. I don't want SW/CHANTER to have STRONGER heals than cleric, I want them to be able to solo heal same as cleric. I don't like to call a Cleric for every content I do, I want to have other viable options too. Something 5.0 brought was no tank needed for PVE content, that was awesome, It was terrible to find a Templar + Cleric Everytime because AT and Glad were useless tanks. Now even tanks have slots in content doing barely not the best DPS. Could we SW/Chanters have a minimum chance of doing similar level of healing of Cleric when we choose to lose DPS to get the Healing Stigmas? I honestly can't solo heal anything, no matter how good my gear is, just for not having low CD AoE heals. Cleric will always be the TOP healer, but it does not need to me miles ahead of SW and Chanter Healing Stigma Builds tho... This is imbalance.

I disagree. Sorc is not absolutely useless because of other DPS exist. SW and Chanter can be solo healers with proper balance with stigmas, same as other DPS don't have their label as "useless" just for not being the most damage dealer than every other class. And Cleric for so long was the best DPS in-game, like, WHAT? Cleric is the most played class for a reason.

I can't express how useless the Heal spec of Songweaver is. "Oh but it's supposed to give support to the cleric", Isn't another Cleric a better support for the main cleric than Chanter and Songweaver? Cleric + Cleric >>>>> Cleric + Chanter >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cleric + Song, for survival. Why should I bring a Songweaver Heal spec over another Cleric? How can Chanter or Songweaver heal a entire party if every relevant PVE content always does HUGE AOE Damage to EVERYBODY when we doesn't have any spamable AoE heal? When will NC fix this? Why do SW have Heal stigma build if it's useless? It isn't even better single heal than cleric! That design is outdated and incredibly illogical. Joyous Carol is a joke, why this isn't a AoE heal? Soothing Hymn is useless, why would anyone use it if the new daevanion skill is everything better than this slow useless design? Hymn of Rejuvenation once was good, now it's useless, a potion does more than wasting a stigma slot with this. Exultation. Do you really think that 300 HB will change anything for a 1668 healing skill? Have NC ever compared to Cleric numbers? Cleric is miles ahead! The vision skill (purging pean) for healing spec is a complete joke on us. Why would someone use that if our basic dispel (Purification Melody) have less cooldown, does basically the same and also regenerates MP for everyone? Since 4.0 I didn't see any useful bard on healing spec surpassing an additional cleric.