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  1. 8 hours ago, Plezurenpain-DN said:

    Each time you hit a level where you can learn another stigma slot you get a quest and it rewards you with your choice of stigmas.  You can also buy them from the broker.  Not sure if they drop in the world & in instances anymore but I know they used to because I had them drop in NTC before multiple times when I had ran it.

    Iirc, you get a specific stigma. To get the ones you want you have to use the broker.

  2. 6 hours ago, Rhakan-KT said:

    @ApoIonia-DN you think the system actually works, and that's adorable, stay forever innocent.


    Since there's no response to this, I belive there's no punishment at all, back to afk siege on mains as well I guess

    As for the system working, in this case it did -- no rules, player feedback on forums, now there are rules.

    Whether or not the rules are enforced is a different issue, but at least the no afk one can be partially enforced by alliance leaders.

  3. 11 hours ago, Jagblade-DN said:

    My question is why the thread was locked to begin with? Some of the people who contacted support posted the responses they got. They were told support can't help and to take their concerns to the forums for the developers to see. Now we're being told to take it back to support?

    The thread was locked so the rules are all that is there so people can see them and they don't get drowned out in all the responses.

    As for your other question:

    1. Support says we have no rules to cover this - go to forum.
    2. You go to forums, the system actually works,  and now we have rules (or guidelines).
    3. NC now says - "if it happens again, go to support - they now have rules"

    What is so hard to understand?

  4. 6 minutes ago, Lumin-DN said:

    Why not both?  Because it is not NC's job to force players to play a certain way.  

    While the Poco's abusive language and actions are not acceptable, you also cannot force them to play the game how you want them to.  If they choose not to help in sieges, it is on their shoulders, not NC's.  

    I am not in any way shape or form saying what they are doing is right, but I also see very little difference in what they're doing compared to how the Governor of Israphel Asmodians acted for the last 4 years.  The only difference I really see is that they're being especially insulting and condescendingly dickish to their faction.  Abusive language and actions are something NC should police, but they should not ever try to force players to play the game a certain way.

    The mechanics are broken.  They should be fixed.  Nobody actually likes Coalitions as they're implemented, NC is aware of that, and will hopefully fix this - but it'll take time because NCWest is just Hime Cyan and Gideon trapped in a broom closet.  Getting major changes takes time.  This would be one such change.  

    I totally understand the rage people are feeling.  I played under an unresponsive governor for years.  It sucks.  But it's their right to play how they want, minus the abusive behavior.  And not helping in sieges is not abusive in and of itself, sorry.  

    You seem to be the only one that gets it. So I guess I'm done - you folks ignore me, try to get players that don't play like you want them to banned and just keep that in mind when you aren't playing the way someone else thinks you should. 

    You folks all take care.

  5. 4 minutes ago, Sachibi-DN said:

    no, we are talking about something and you start to defend another stuff.... we write a full post and u pick 1 little thing there and divert the point automatically.if u want to deffend ur point of vew its okay, but dont divert the topic. 

    check, what the hell is that, u are defending the fact of have spies in ally, but who is talking about this????  read principal post please:


    It seems that I am not the one that knows how to read - the post I responded to was related to 'omg what will people do when these people or their alts join our alliances'. I comment on the near panic that you are trying to create in an effort to get people who don't play the way you want them to banned. You have yet to say that is NOT your goal here.


    1 minute ago, HyeRim-DN said:

    @ApoIonia-DN you shouldnt send threats in private forum messages.Those can be used against you as well. And What kind of apology do you expect?As i can see you are still trying to divert the original topic.

    Never sent a threat. You can feel free to post what I sent you so everyone can see. This is another example of you stating a falsehood and expecting everyone to believe you. I expect you to apologize for the misstatements you have made about me. If you can't own up to the fact that you were wrong or were just 'piling on' (which, i think can be classified as a form of abuse) then I think we have nothing left to say. Willfully refusing to correct the statements about me are an indication that you knew they were false when you made them instead of in error. Therefor, as a proven liar, nothing you have said can be believed.

  6. 10 minutes ago, Sachibi-DN said:

    hey apolonia, stop to divert the point. really dude.... every time you write something u try justify things that we are not talking about.

    And you are so focused on NC Soft making people play their toons the way YOU want them to. If you want to control how the governor uses the governor perks, get off your dead nyerk and become governor. You should be petitioning NC Soft to change the system that allows and promotes this type of behavior instead of getting them to ban people you just don't fell play like you think they should. Who died and made you the arbiter of how everyone is supposed to play aion? One thing I have learned from my time in the forums - Aion is designed for self-centered greedy nyerks to take advantage of people.  When 12 people gank a lowbie, the game is working as designed but when the gov puts a coalition kisk where you don't like it he is breaking the rules - please explain the difference? Sure, the current system is the pits but it's the system we've got - either deal with it or get NC Soft to change it. And btw, nobody forces you to go to siege - if you don't like it and it;s not fun - just don't do it. Or are you really that dependent on those 3 lousy instances that a) aren't fun and b) don't give that much in rewards?

    And the only thing I've seen about your point is 'These people don't play Aion the way I want them to - NC Soft should ban them' and seriously, if what you have said means different let me know. You have yet to point out what part of what they are doing in siege is against the rules. So like I said in an earlier post, just like ya'll all told me about the open world gankfest - deal with it. Every update since the removal of Katalam and Danaria has lead to an environment that further encourages griefing and abuse, it would seem that our current governor has just carried NC Soft's plan to its logical conclusion.

  7. 10 minutes ago, Calista-DN said:

    Those of us who siege every day,  certainly haven't forgotten.   Again, as you haven't sieged in a while, and never under the present system or the present leadership, you are the person who is unfamiliar with the game currently, not us. You therefore don't even understand why there are problems with your partial solution (which does work sometimes, it just isn't easy).

    You don't even credit the experience of people who have been through this  for months, which  is really odd.

    Are you saying that since I haven't sieged this week (I guess that is what is considered 'a while' now), I'm misinformed and in the dark about sieges? And again, I do understand that you folks are frustrated with the way it was, but there are a LOT more people now who are NOT the people you are nyerking about. That part you don't seem to be taking into consideration. It seems that if the particular individuals are as bad as everyone says, your team got a whole lot more support with this merge than theirs did.

  8. 8 minutes ago, Calista-DN said:

      I'm just waiting to see the reaction when the Pocos start  dropping into each alliance  on their main or one of their alts literally every few seconds to see what's going on when we try this.

    And you've never had spies in your alliances before? Did you people really and truly forget how to siege?

  9. 5 hours ago, Aly-DN said:

    It's not that the Governor is uncooperative and that's the point. 

    It's that the governor is -abusive-.

    The person that you trust told you that everything said in this thread is 100% true and yet you still defend the abusers. I just don't get it, Apo. 


    P.S. To everyone else.. Apo is not one of the Pocos. She is a long time poser on the forums. I have disagreed with her. I have agreed with her. She is a champion of the underdog.

    And I'm not supporting the behavior. But there are some facts:

    1. NC Soft Initiated the current siege system ON PURPOSE that gives automatic lead of the coalition to the governor.
    2. NC Soft Initiated the coalition system ON PURPOSE that allows the coalition lead to kick alliances as they see fit.
    3. NC Soft Gave control of the placement of the Coalition Kisk to the coalition leader ON PURPOSE.

    What I am saying is that you guys are qq about things that NC Soft PURPOSEFULLY provides for our current governor to do, The gov and his/her cohorts are not exploiting a game flaw - they are doing exactly what NC Soft designed the system to do. NC Soft CHOSE to create this situation and only the development team can fix it. If you ban this governor, there are enough nyerks on this server that the situation will always happen again. And I have heard none of you call for the system to be fixed, just for a ban of this person that you don't like.

    So, in this case, I am still supporting the underdog - you folks are all jumping on folks for doing EXACTLY what NC Soft allows them to do. Your real beef should be with the siege mechanics ...

  10. Since the current siege mechanic makes the gov the default lead of a coalition, what would happen, say, if when more than one fort was vulnerable, everyone that didn't want to be in the gov's coalition formed one for the other fort? I know it takes at least one alliance to form a coalition, are you saying that you couldn't scrape together that many people who don't support the gov to do that?

    And wouldn't that partially fix the problem?

    Heck, I might even come back to seiging just to be in the non-gov coalition.

  11. 2 hours ago, Kubei-DN said:

    Of course it’s the Pocos, in fact, one doesn’t need to be a rocket scientist to figure out it’s them by the type of wording and sentencing the use, it's even similar to this one person in the fb group but that’s for later. The sole fact they are stuck with the “not breaking rules”, “just a kisk”, “doesn’t have to pass lead” just confirms it’s them as everyone in the thread agrees it’s wrong, but just not the Pocos.

    What baffled me the most is the “siege is not pvp” thing. Really now, not pvp at all? So it’s not 2 factions (3 if you count the balaur) fighting each other in order to gain a fortress? Hm, pretty sure that is categorized as RvR (race versus race). It seems the Pocos need a bit of time out and educate themselves what really defines pvp and what’s it core meaning.

    Nonetheless, seeing the pocos fight here and attempt to defend themselves under alts is just laughable and proves they’ve been caught doing wrong, now attempting to justify their evil actions. By denying the previous stated rules means you’re breaking another set of rules from ToS. You cannot compare Terms of Service and Rules of Conduct, they coexist with each other but has a different set of things written in there. Both are equally important for any player in their Aion experience.

    I won’t be going into much detail here, feeding attention to the Pocos is something you don’t want to be doing. We all know what’s wrong here, and arguing with them is just trying to confuse people, putting them on a pedastal with “gov and commander can do whatever they want” thing. Don’t do that, it’s a waste of anybody’s time.

    First, get your facts strait - 'nuff said. I do not even know who the current governor is, I have always posted on my main - you can ask anyone here, and finally I never said siege was not PvP, I said siege may not be a 'PvP Match'. - there is a difference.  Maybe Cyan could tell us the Official Definition from NC Soft's legal department as to what a PvP Match is. And I can compare ToS and Rules of Conduct, because the ToS includes the Rules of Conduct. Here, still, all I see are a bunch of people who don't like the governor trying to get him banned instead of taking the requisite action to become governor. 

    As for the person who commented that 'Not everyone has a legion' - who's fault is that? You can found a legion with a couple K kinah and 5 minutes of your time. Kisks were never supposed to be permanent and indestructable - part of the siege strategy used to be finding and destroying kisks. You folks think I just started doing this. It took me 3 years to make 5-star because like many of you, I felt a siege rank should be earned at siege, not in EB. But I went to sieges, just about every one. I suck at PvP, so I died a lot but I still went - win or lose. You folks have a few bad sieges and come on the forums and nyerk about how the gov and his minions should have done this or that, the faction is dead, .... those are the things my kids did when they were 5. What ever happened to getting off your butts and doing stuff? So it's harder with the gov not cooperating, but are you saying that the faction is so bad at siege that it is impossible?

  12. 3 minutes ago, 5s25C407-DN said:

    You have seriously stated,  more than once, that siege is not a PVP match, plus that you held transform rank?

    Did you ever do the campaign quests at Terminon? You know the ones that explain how sieges work, kisks, artifacts, the diety, etc? Why do you think that transforms were even created? It's to hold off the other faction in PVP during sieges. Of course its PVP/PVE and as such it has always awarded AP  and recently GP. In fact as such there are still be used in sieges.

    So, irrespective of any personal feelings towards the Pocos- the fact that it is a PVP match is not under debate, or should not be, it has been so since the game started.

    You have stated that you haven't sieged recently, well the siege mechanics have changed (it isn't only the kisk, its buffs and participation in the coalition), the server population has changed, you haven't experienced leadership under the Pocos.  If they are written properly, the tickets that are being posted are definitely not "QQ",  but are  the most effective way in addition to some things that can be done periodically in game. 


    Siege, as described in the abyss campaign, is not the siege we have today - so that's a red herring. If siege was a pvp contest, pvp would count for score - it doesn't. In any of the PvP instances, PvP counts toward the score. And yes, I held transform rank and have transformed at siege, but when transform became another means to gank lowbies, I gladly gave it up. If you are a Great General and can't kill level 66 players without xform ... but that is a different topic.

  13. 21 minutes ago, Aly-DN said:


    I see that you no longer siege, so perhaps you don't understand the way the new Coalition works. Only the leader of the Coalition can place the Battle Kisk. It is a huge kisk that actually heals health, mana and flight time as long as you stand under it. It is unkillable. It is invaluable in the current sieges. That's why everyone is making such a big deal about it being held hostage until these two feel that their bottoms have been sufficiently kissed. And I believe that that is why they withhold it. Because it is just that important. Someone else can lead using the blue Coalition chat. It isn't the best way, but it can be done. But only that leader can place the kisk and that kisk can make or break a siege.


    It is true that I no longer siege, but didn't stop until I had gotten all my rank independent gear. I understand the new siege mechanic and you will see that nowhere in the formula for a win does pvp score any points at all. 

    As for the coalition kisk - what did you do before it came - lots and lots of legion kisks - that's what. Did everyone forget everything they knew? QQ about the governor and his cohorts is not gonna fix it. You know what worked before - do it again. If someone is banning someone - screenshot and report, don't qq. If someone is demanding tribute - screenshot and report, don't qq. And when you post something on the forums as fact, make sure it's fact - someone has yet to show that I even know the new gov and his minions, much less that I am friends with them. 

    Someone on the forums whose opinions I trust has assured me that these things have happened, so I don't doubt they did. But you aren't gonna fix anything by qq in the forums or reporting ToS violations that may or may not be there. All the points and score in siege are from pve, so how could it be considered a pvp match? But demanding tribute is certainly scamming, foul language is against the rules, kicking people over and over is harassment ... see the difference?

    And calling people out on the forums is also a violation of the forum rules, so 2 wrongs don't make it right. I think what they are doing is disgraceful, but you folks aren't qq in the right place about the right things, at least that's how I see it.

  14. 17 minutes ago, Plezurenpain-DN said:

    So your solution is people waste their time leveling up more characters and getting gear, their gold spent on gear or items on the new account, and their real life money on a second account?  Does that not strike you as a stupid idea???

    Just as good an idea as what you are doing now ... instead of figuring out how to work around it, accomplish your goals, and get something done all I've seen is a bunch of people trying to get someone they don't like banned. Assuming that I am right and siege is not a 'pvp match' and therefore there is no match manipulation - what are you guys gonna do to fix it? Everyone is so fixated on getting people banned, or taking away my hard-earned gp that nobody seems to even be worried about what to do to fix it.

    Personally, I no longer care about gp (and although I don't really care about it, I EARNED it (and not by living in eb) and you have no right to take it) - the only reason to xform is to gank newbies in Norsvald and none of my gear has rank requirements. But you folks seem to care - so, what are you gonna do about it other than qq to ncsoft? You used to siege before this - what changed (not talking about siege mechanics, talking about attitude)? 

  15. Just now, Plezurenpain-DN said:

    Um did you miss the section under In-game Infractions that states "Engaging in PvP match manipulation, disrupting a PvP match by not actively playing in good faith, or any other form of PvP griefing, exploitation, or abuse"?  I'm pretty sure what they have done qualifies as that.  Again, I don't know to the extent of what happened the past few nights during siege because I wasn't there but I did see Mooch talking in LFG about it along with others talking about the crap they did to screw over the Elyos.

    I would not classify siege as a pvp match, since pvp doesn't even count for points in who wins.

  16. 8 minutes ago, Plezurenpain-DN said:

    First off I can't speak about what happened during the sieges that have went on.  I can comment on the talk in LFG they made about how they were doing EXACTLY what they were being accused of and said they will continue to do it because "they can".  And your solution to the problem of "reroll Asmo" is bull.  You should not have to switch factions in a game in order to get something done.  Not only that but the fact that this game only allows you to have 8 characters on your entire account means they couldn't simply make another character and play the other faction so easily.

    You can have a new account with another 8 toons in less than a minute. But the point is that siege is not a pvp match, they are not manipulating the outcome, and they are not pvp griefing. If you are gonna qq about them being afk, you have to report everyone else there that is afk. Again to me is sounds like you are just trying to get someone you don't like banned.

    1 minute ago, Sachibi-DN said:

    Engaging in PvP match manipulation, disrupting a PvP match by not actively playing in good faith, or any other form of PvP griefing, exploitation, or abuse

    and is not what "I" think, is what 99% of sieging ppl think.  

    is not false acusation, there's full proof in forums and tickets. 

    I just talk ppl in the same way they talk to me. 

    I repeat again, read again the post in the start. 

    You said I was friends with them, yet you fail to prove that I even know them. If you will lie about something that simple. what else will you be dishonest about?

  17. 13 minutes ago, Sachibi-DN said:

    Im sachibi - Danaria and im telling you HOW TO PLAY. CHECK RULES HERE http://us.ncsoft.com/en/legal/aion/conduct-breaches-and-outcomes.php

    and if u dont care who happens to elyos Danaria we dont care ur opinion, because u are talking from your friendship with them but the problem is ofc clear. 

    u came late to the drama, I think u dont event read the full post and u are so so so freaking away from the point. read ur self, read the full post and then come back.



    Ya, but read those rules -- nothing that you have nyerked about in this thread except the profanity (which you would have to prove) isn't a violation of those rules any more than killing someone in the open world is.

    And I have read the full thread and if it is being championed by someone who can't even bother to fact-check their post I find it has little credibility. One person has weighed in and their opinion I respect, but you who make false accusations (in the grownup world those are called lies) about me and then expect me to help you get someone banned just because you don't like them ... Any one on the forums knows that I have always been IS and really don't take part in the aion social scene so I have no clue who these people are that are governor. I'm just amazed that you think that you have the right to tell them how to play their characters. Nothing in the ToS or rules of conduct state that the governor has to do anything or that the governor can't use any powers given to him/her how he/she chooses. Where in your precious rules does it say that the governor has to do what YOU think is best for the faction?

    Whatever the gov does doesn't bother me in the slightest since ncsoft has made siege meaningless so how can not playing a meaningless event the way you think they should play it be detrimental to anyone?

    Now, you said that my comments are based on my friendship with them - prove that I even know them or everything else you have said in this thread is also a lie. 

  18. 34 minutes ago, Sachibi-DN said:


    we dont care if governor and army commander donsnt like make sieges, we don't care if they are noob in the ranking. the problem is: they are trying to block us with puropose. joining the alliance and keeping the leader, droping the kisks for example, kicking people because they dont like and that stuffs like that..... and any sabotage againts the pvp experience to the community is againts the rules. you can read HERE. if they are ur friends, or u dont care, that's ok. but if the 95% of the elyos population are affected, so there's a big problem. 

    I got the point, but you totally missed mine ... who the freak are you to tell them how to play the game? If they don't want to pass lead - THEY DON'T HAVE TO. If they want to put the coalition kisk inside Roah Fortress - THEY CAN. They are playing the game as designed. If you can gank lowbies in the 66 areas, they can sure as heck siege how they want to. I get so sick and tired of all you holier-than-thou folks who think that they have the right to tell others how to play. I've been told so many times to find a new game when something changes that I don't like, why is it when something changes that you don't like it's the end of aion as we know it? Deal with it, get enough gp to be governor, or reroll asmo.

    If you follow your logic, doing anything to cause another player to not enjoy the game is 'harassment' and against the TOS -- does that mean I should report all the asmos that gank me in open world and all the elyos who run around ks? I didn't think so ... but on this issue, we should all go crying because YOU are not having a good time at siege ... are you worried about the faction or you own selfish rear end? This all just sounds like an excuse to try to get nc soft to reset gp for all the 'special' people who think they deserve everything now and shouldn't really have to work for it ...

    Now, about the profanity .. I get it -- i report all the nyerk graphics at sanctum defense myself. Sure, report people for profanity but not simply because you don't agree with how they play their toon or exercise their rank.

    Remember, if 24 v 1 pvp is 'cool' and 'ok' so is placing a coalition kisk in Lake Asteria.

  19. I haven't replied to anything of any seriousness in a while, but all you people that are crying about the new governor should just do like everyone tells me when something happens - deal with it. It appears that the people in question are playing the game as designed and you have no right to control how they play their game. Since they changed the rules so that the whole purpose of transformation is to go to the other faction's territory and gank newbies, I'm glad I lost my 5 star. So what, you won't be able to do a couple of instances for a while - big deal. There are other ways to get ap and medals. And before you go making accusations that I'm on their payroll, I have no clue who these people are, I've been IS-E for a long time, used to go to every siege, support the faction ... and all that rot. But why bother when the faction doesn't support you? Keep in mind, this is a game (at least that's what everyone tells me) and who really gives a shugo about who owns what fort. This game as so many issues besides this one that I'm surprised that this thread has gone on so long.

    If you really want to get back at them, and you honestly think they are putting the 'faction' (I use that term lightly, because I have been told more than once that in aion, it's dog-eat-dog and every man/woman for him/her self) at a disadvantage - REROLL ASMO and take advantage of the elyos disadvantage - seems simple enough to me. If they are making it so the asmos always win, play on the asmo side - it's not rocket surgery.

    You guys amaze me, you are totally ok with 24 v 1 pvp, only attacking people that have elite mobs agroed, stealing kills .. but the governor doesn't set a battlefield kisk you get your panties in a wad ... really.

  20. On 8/18/2017 at 6:06 AM, Nyinu-KR said:

    That seems like a good thing to me. Last thing any sane person would want to do with their time is kill 2 thousand mobs for disenchants you can get in other ways. So this nerf is totally improving your game play! Good to know.

    There seems to be a severe disrespect for other peoples play styles here. Just because you wouldn't want to do something, doesn't dismiss it as a viable play option for other players. I don't like waiting 20-30 min for instances to form so I don't do a lot of instances, other people would rather wait in sanctum for something to do and don't really mind (imnsho) wasting most of their game time waiting for stuff to happen.

  21. Hi, I'm ApoIonia and I play SM on IS. I hate OW PvP, but instanced PvP where everyone wants to fight is ok. Been playing since 3.0 and am not really happy with the concept of taking stuff away being an upgrade, but learning to deal with it.  I, too, am an altoholic and have at least one 66+ of every class, but haven't played my asmos in a while. The server merge is gonna be strange, we're all gonna have new people to like, dislike, or otherwise just get used to but it may bring back some of the fun. Looking forward to playing with ya'll and although I don't like OW PvP, if i'm in a group, I'll stick and fight.

  22. On 8/12/2017 at 1:41 PM, Nyinu-KR said:

    Housing is going to blow. Big time. Unless you have large amounts of kinah, don't expect to have a mansion or an estate and adjust how you play accordingly. 

    That's what I did - I let go of my mansion/estate savings and am buying stuff to play with instead of just letting it sit in the warehouse.