ApoIonia-DN

Iirc, you get a specific stigma. To get the ones you want you have to use the broker.

As for the system working, in this case it did -- no rules, player feedback on forums, now there are rules. Whether or not the rules are enforced is a different issue, but at least the no afk one can be partially enforced by alliance leaders.

The thread was locked so the rules are all that is there so people can see them and they don't get drowned out in all the responses. As for your other question: Support says we have no rules to cover this - go to forum. You go to forums, the system actually works, and now we have rules (or guidelines). NC now says - "if it happens again, go to support - they now have rules" What is so hard to understand?

You seem to be the only one that gets it. So I guess I'm done - you folks ignore me, try to get players that don't play like you want them to banned and just keep that in mind when you aren't playing the way someone else thinks you should. You folks all take care.

It seems that I am not the one that knows how to read - the post I responded to was related to 'omg what will people do when these people or their alts join our alliances'. I comment on the near panic that you are trying to create in an effort to get people who don't play the way you want them to banned. You have yet to say that is NOT your goal here. Never sent a threat. You can feel free to post what I sent you so everyone can see. This is another example of you stating a falsehood and expecting everyone to believe you. I expect you to apologize for the misstatements you have made about me. If you can't own up to the fact that you were wrong or were just 'piling on' (which, i think can be classified as a form of abuse) then I think we have nothing left to say. Willfully refusing to correct the statements about me are an indication that you knew they were false when you made them instead of in error. Therefor, as a proven liar, nothing you have said can be believed.

And you are so focused on NC Soft making people play their toons the way YOU want them to. If you want to control how the governor uses the governor perks, get off your dead nyerk and become governor. You should be petitioning NC Soft to change the system that allows and promotes this type of behavior instead of getting them to ban people you just don't fell play like you think they should. Who died and made you the arbiter of how everyone is supposed to play aion? One thing I have learned from my time in the forums - Aion is designed for self-centered greedy nyerks to take advantage of people. When 12 people gank a lowbie, the game is working as designed but when the gov puts a coalition kisk where you don't like it he is breaking the rules - please explain the difference? Sure, the current system is the pits but it's the system we've got - either deal with it or get NC Soft to change it. And btw, nobody forces you to go to siege - if you don't like it and it;s not fun - just don't do it. Or are you really that dependent on those 3 lousy instances that a) aren't fun and b) don't give that much in rewards? And the only thing I've seen about your point is 'These people don't play Aion the way I want them to - NC Soft should ban them' and seriously, if what you have said means different let me know. You have yet to point out what part of what they are doing in siege is against the rules. So like I said in an earlier post, just like ya'll all told me about the open world gankfest - deal with it. Every update since the removal of Katalam and Danaria has lead to an environment that further encourages griefing and abuse, it would seem that our current governor has just carried NC Soft's plan to its logical conclusion.

Are you saying that since I haven't sieged this week (I guess that is what is considered 'a while' now), I'm misinformed and in the dark about sieges? And again, I do understand that you folks are frustrated with the way it was, but there are a LOT more people now who are NOT the people you are nyerking about. That part you don't seem to be taking into consideration. It seems that if the particular individuals are as bad as everyone says, your team got a whole lot more support with this merge than theirs did.

And you've never had spies in your alliances before? Did you people really and truly forget how to siege?

And I'm not supporting the behavior. But there are some facts: NC Soft Initiated the current siege system ON PURPOSE that gives automatic lead of the coalition to the governor. NC Soft Initiated the coalition system ON PURPOSE that allows the coalition lead to kick alliances as they see fit. NC Soft Gave control of the placement of the Coalition Kisk to the coalition leader ON PURPOSE. What I am saying is that you guys are qq about things that NC Soft PURPOSEFULLY provides for our current governor to do, The gov and his/her cohorts are not exploiting a game flaw - they are doing exactly what NC Soft designed the system to do. NC Soft CHOSE to create this situation and only the development team can fix it. If you ban this governor, there are enough nyerks on this server that the situation will always happen again. And I have heard none of you call for the system to be fixed, just for a ban of this person that you don't like. So, in this case, I am still supporting the underdog - you folks are all jumping on folks for doing EXACTLY what NC Soft allows them to do. Your real beef should be with the siege mechanics ...

Since the current siege mechanic makes the gov the default lead of a coalition, what would happen, say, if when more than one fort was vulnerable, everyone that didn't want to be in the gov's coalition formed one for the other fort? I know it takes at least one alliance to form a coalition, are you saying that you couldn't scrape together that many people who don't support the gov to do that? And wouldn't that partially fix the problem? Heck, I might even come back to seiging just to be in the non-gov coalition.

First, get your facts strait - 'nuff said. I do not even know who the current governor is, I have always posted on my main - you can ask anyone here, and finally I never said siege was not PvP, I said siege may not be a 'PvP Match'. - there is a difference. Maybe Cyan could tell us the Official Definition from NC Soft's legal department as to what a PvP Match is. And I can compare ToS and Rules of Conduct, because the ToS includes the Rules of Conduct. Here, still, all I see are a bunch of people who don't like the governor trying to get him banned instead of taking the requisite action to become governor. As for the person who commented that 'Not everyone has a legion' - who's fault is that? You can found a legion with a couple K kinah and 5 minutes of your time. Kisks were never supposed to be permanent and indestructable - part of the siege strategy used to be finding and destroying kisks. You folks think I just started doing this. It took me 3 years to make 5-star because like many of you, I felt a siege rank should be earned at siege, not in EB. But I went to sieges, just about every one. I suck at PvP, so I died a lot but I still went - win or lose. You folks have a few bad sieges and come on the forums and nyerk about how the gov and his minions should have done this or that, the faction is dead, .... those are the things my kids did when they were 5. What ever happened to getting off your butts and doing stuff? So it's harder with the gov not cooperating, but are you saying that the faction is so bad at siege that it is impossible?

Siege, as described in the abyss campaign, is not the siege we have today - so that's a red herring. If siege was a pvp contest, pvp would count for score - it doesn't. In any of the PvP instances, PvP counts toward the score. And yes, I held transform rank and have transformed at siege, but when transform became another means to gank lowbies, I gladly gave it up. If you are a Great General and can't kill level 66 players without xform ... but that is a different topic.

It is true that I no longer siege, but didn't stop until I had gotten all my rank independent gear. I understand the new siege mechanic and you will see that nowhere in the formula for a win does pvp score any points at all. As for the coalition kisk - what did you do before it came - lots and lots of legion kisks - that's what. Did everyone forget everything they knew? QQ about the governor and his cohorts is not gonna fix it. You know what worked before - do it again. If someone is banning someone - screenshot and report, don't qq. If someone is demanding tribute - screenshot and report, don't qq. And when you post something on the forums as fact, make sure it's fact - someone has yet to show that I even know the new gov and his minions, much less that I am friends with them. Someone on the forums whose opinions I trust has assured me that these things have happened, so I don't doubt they did. But you aren't gonna fix anything by qq in the forums or reporting ToS violations that may or may not be there. All the points and score in siege are from pve, so how could it be considered a pvp match? But demanding tribute is certainly scamming, foul language is against the rules, kicking people over and over is harassment ... see the difference? And calling people out on the forums is also a violation of the forum rules, so 2 wrongs don't make it right. I think what they are doing is disgraceful, but you folks aren't qq in the right place about the right things, at least that's how I see it.

Just as good an idea as what you are doing now ... instead of figuring out how to work around it, accomplish your goals, and get something done all I've seen is a bunch of people trying to get someone they don't like banned. Assuming that I am right and siege is not a 'pvp match' and therefore there is no match manipulation - what are you guys gonna do to fix it? Everyone is so fixated on getting people banned, or taking away my hard-earned gp that nobody seems to even be worried about what to do to fix it. Personally, I no longer care about gp (and although I don't really care about it, I EARNED it (and not by living in eb) and you have no right to take it) - the only reason to xform is to gank newbies in Norsvald and none of my gear has rank requirements. But you folks seem to care - so, what are you gonna do about it other than qq to ncsoft? You used to siege before this - what changed (not talking about siege mechanics, talking about attitude)?

I would not classify siege as a pvp match, since pvp doesn't even count for points in who wins.

You can have a new account with another 8 toons in less than a minute. But the point is that siege is not a pvp match, they are not manipulating the outcome, and they are not pvp griefing. If you are gonna qq about them being afk, you have to report everyone else there that is afk. Again to me is sounds like you are just trying to get someone you don't like banned. You said I was friends with them, yet you fail to prove that I even know them. If you will lie about something that simple. what else will you be dishonest about?

Ya, but read those rules -- nothing that you have nyerked about in this thread except the profanity (which you would have to prove) isn't a violation of those rules any more than killing someone in the open world is. And I have read the full thread and if it is being championed by someone who can't even bother to fact-check their post I find it has little credibility. One person has weighed in and their opinion I respect, but you who make false accusations (in the grownup world those are called lies) about me and then expect me to help you get someone banned just because you don't like them ... Any one on the forums knows that I have always been IS and really don't take part in the aion social scene so I have no clue who these people are that are governor. I'm just amazed that you think that you have the right to tell them how to play their characters. Nothing in the ToS or rules of conduct state that the governor has to do anything or that the governor can't use any powers given to him/her how he/she chooses. Where in your precious rules does it say that the governor has to do what YOU think is best for the faction? Whatever the gov does doesn't bother me in the slightest since ncsoft has made siege meaningless so how can not playing a meaningless event the way you think they should play it be detrimental to anyone? Now, you said that my comments are based on my friendship with them - prove that I even know them or everything else you have said in this thread is also a lie.

I got the point, but you totally missed mine ... who the freak are you to tell them how to play the game? If they don't want to pass lead - THEY DON'T HAVE TO. If they want to put the coalition kisk inside Roah Fortress - THEY CAN. They are playing the game as designed. If you can gank lowbies in the 66 areas, they can sure as heck siege how they want to. I get so sick and tired of all you holier-than-thou folks who think that they have the right to tell others how to play. I've been told so many times to find a new game when something changes that I don't like, why is it when something changes that you don't like it's the end of aion as we know it? Deal with it, get enough gp to be governor, or reroll asmo. If you follow your logic, doing anything to cause another player to not enjoy the game is 'harassment' and against the TOS -- does that mean I should report all the asmos that gank me in open world and all the elyos who run around ks? I didn't think so ... but on this issue, we should all go crying because YOU are not having a good time at siege ... are you worried about the faction or you own selfish rear end? This all just sounds like an excuse to try to get nc soft to reset gp for all the 'special' people who think they deserve everything now and shouldn't really have to work for it ... Now, about the profanity .. I get it -- i report all the nyerk graphics at sanctum defense myself. Sure, report people for profanity but not simply because you don't agree with how they play their toon or exercise their rank. Remember, if 24 v 1 pvp is 'cool' and 'ok' so is placing a coalition kisk in Lake Asteria.

I haven't replied to anything of any seriousness in a while, but all you people that are crying about the new governor should just do like everyone tells me when something happens - deal with it. It appears that the people in question are playing the game as designed and you have no right to control how they play their game. Since they changed the rules so that the whole purpose of transformation is to go to the other faction's territory and gank newbies, I'm glad I lost my 5 star. So what, you won't be able to do a couple of instances for a while - big deal. There are other ways to get ap and medals. And before you go making accusations that I'm on their payroll, I have no clue who these people are, I've been IS-E for a long time, used to go to every siege, support the faction ... and all that rot. But why bother when the faction doesn't support you? Keep in mind, this is a game (at least that's what everyone tells me) and who really gives a shugo about who owns what fort. This game as so many issues besides this one that I'm surprised that this thread has gone on so long. If you really want to get back at them, and you honestly think they are putting the 'faction' (I use that term lightly, because I have been told more than once that in aion, it's dog-eat-dog and every man/woman for him/her self) at a disadvantage - REROLL ASMO and take advantage of the elyos disadvantage - seems simple enough to me. If they are making it so the asmos always win, play on the asmo side - it's not rocket surgery. You guys amaze me, you are totally ok with 24 v 1 pvp, only attacking people that have elite mobs agroed, stealing kills .. but the governor doesn't set a battlefield kisk you get your panties in a wad ... really.

It would have been so much nicer if people had first and last names. A simple space could make so much of a difference.

All cake is a lie.

There seems to be a severe disrespect for other peoples play styles here. Just because you wouldn't want to do something, doesn't dismiss it as a viable play option for other players. I don't like waiting 20-30 min for instances to form so I don't do a lot of instances, other people would rather wait in sanctum for something to do and don't really mind (imnsho) wasting most of their game time waiting for stuff to happen.

Please bring back the 'first unread' button and place topics in order of most recent post.

Hi, I'm ApoIonia and I play SM on IS. I hate OW PvP, but instanced PvP where everyone wants to fight is ok. Been playing since 3.0 and am not really happy with the concept of taking stuff away being an upgrade, but learning to deal with it. I, too, am an altoholic and have at least one 66+ of every class, but haven't played my asmos in a while. The server merge is gonna be strange, we're all gonna have new people to like, dislike, or otherwise just get used to but it may bring back some of the fun. Looking forward to playing with ya'll and although I don't like OW PvP, if i'm in a group, I'll stick and fight.

That's what I did - I let go of my mansion/estate savings and am buying stuff to play with instead of just letting it sit in the warehouse.