Arhangelos
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21 hours ago, MetaBlack-KT said:
You talk about advantages of Daeva pass - you mean Premium? What about the free one? I wanna discuss what I really have. I still don't understand whether it counts/accunulates progress when I do every day 2 daily quests, sometimes 3? (All but Apsaranta) Does it count/accumulate progress when I do 1 or 2 weekly quests (buy items by exp marks, craft Daevanion skill)? On my various characters with Free version, I only got 1 or 2 first rewards - Dimensional Hourglass and Glyph shards. I don't know why we need 10 glyph shards of 100 while we get several full heavy glyphs from Kerub for free? What will be the 3d reward and are we really moving to it with such way of completing quests? So far, the gone Lugbug system seems to me much more useful.
You can see the free rewards by hovering over them. I am already at stage 31 free daeva pass. The p2w daeva pass obviously has additional better rewards.
You do the daily/weekly/season quests and get points. Every 100 points you unlock a daeva pass stage.
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Apsaranta became too hard to level after 8.3. Even worse we have less 4/4 rewards now so it is more important to level them early.
By the time we can reach level 5, we will most likely be close to the next reset again!
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So are they implying that because we did it earlier we made good use of the holy system for enough time? How much is enough?
Yes those that managed to do it the last weeks before they knew the relic will be deleted would be greatly scammed, but we are also scammed. I wouldn't have used 21 billion worth of holy water to raise my relic for such a short amount of time.
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1 hour ago, PrincessAvalon-KT said:
@EMpulse You guys removed lunas from the original taki missions because of people botting. Put it in lugbug missions and now lugbug gets removed. Put it on daeva pass or on a daily auto required quest which lets us grind the same amount of mobs as we used to. There are numerous solutions for this, if you have no developers address the issue to Korea and have them send you the updated code or whatsoever. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE !!! lUNAS have been free since 5.8 and back then we could even craft any skin we wanted until the bs updates started coming. We waited for the luna wardrobe for ages, it is YOUR DUTY to IMPLEMENT a way for players to grind lunas without ptw. They are also used for gear retuning which for at this point idc i just want my skins.
I agree.
They can put it in a daily feature that bots can't easily do. Because even the 50 kill was more bot friendly than actual player friendly especially before we had the auto-hunt. When we got it, it became an auto-hunt thing.
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23 hours ago, Mrplatino-DN said:
can you speak with facts? like i did on my video how many NEW accounts do we get? 0 aion has no new players system and ncsoft killed it, you speaking for new players? lmao we are the same 300 guys since 2016 and dropping daily. to be honest whoever crys about daily quest luna is those kinah sellers coz there is no reason in before to run lunas. they cant run their x1000000 to autobot lugbug daily. anyways there is still one free to play solution and NOTICE my alts has kerub gear.
I think what he means is that now more people will start doing this because that's the only way to make Luna now, which will increase the amount of players and a lot of people will not be able to be on the top 1000.
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On 10/21/2022 at 9:16 PM, MetaBlack-KT said:
I don't know how to say how disappointed I am with the Daeva's pass replacing Lugbus's missions!
(I've read the patch notes!!!)
1. No daily login reward. With Lugbug we would receive a Dimensional Hourglass daily, so we could refill it if we spent it yesterday. On Daeva's Pass we only received it once on the 1st login, but the 2nd one doesn't give it and I don't see it anywhere in future planned rewards. How are we supposed to refill it if we spend it in Lakrum and Demaha???
2. No rewards for each quest (in daily quests) but only for 4 quests together, and they include Doing a Legion Quest in Apsaranta. What if I don't love Apsaranta, don't understand how to do "legion quests" there or there's no conditions (like our faction conquered a base)? I used to come to 1 or 2 operation sites in Apsaranta trying to get a quest, there were friendly npcs (our faction?) but there was no one to give a quest at all! No one!! I found something about "Legion renown" in the game interface. I have 0 of that, we've never got renown tonics for those while we got lots of tonics for Gelkmaros, Inggisson, Demaha, Katalam, Silentera Canyon. How am I supposed to grow my "legion renown" if I don't get any quests for it???
3. The quest giving Luna Materials Bundle was removed and there is no substitution for it! I was in Luna daily and weekly, it's same as before, the weekly one only gives materials without Luna Light, and you can only get 1 Luna Light in 7 weeks taking loot from the chest. How are we supposed to earn Luna materials now???
Along with this, its especially shocking to read this:
"Event Dates: October 19, 2022 – November 16, 2022
A brand-new Daeva Pass has come! Below you’ll find all the details of what rewards to expect!
Cost: 2240 Luna
Level: 45
[Daeva Pass]
Daeva pass system has been added."
Do you mean we should pay 2240 Luna for the period October 19, 2022 – November 16, 2022? On each character?? And for another month to pay the same amount again? Are you crazy, NCSoft??? Is Aion no longer free to play, let alone "Truly free"???
Free rewards don't look much interesting, compared to what we had from Lugbug.
Pffftt!
4. Regarding the "Harvest Revel"event. There is some error or the lie is "working as intended": "Speak with Kabe, the Candy Master each day to receive 2 [BCM] Harvest Revel Transformation Candy Baskets to sample the seasonal transformations! " It's a lie! I tried the Kabe's quest, she doesn't give any seasonal transformation potions (as it was 3 years ago - Vampires etc), she gives plain ancient transformation potions that just occupy space in our bags! What are they needed for?? The quest to eat, drink, use potions & scrolls doesn't reward anything alone. You need to go to Apsaranta to do a legion quest. Who will use legendary potions and do a legion quest in Apsaranta??? It's nonsense! Everyone has lots of Ultimate transformation potions (Zikel, Nezekan), plus Legendary Apostle and sometimes Ultimate transformation contracts!
Please give Lugbug back!!!
1) The hourglass is indeed not every day but it no longer expires and there are a few steps of the daeva pass that give an hourglass again. Sure thing if you need to be on a timed map every day it can be a hustle. You can buy some hourglass from the renown NPC with level 5 renown on multiple maps. *The hourglassed maps were never meant for anyone to be able to be there 24/7 unfortunately.
2) The daeva pass is a better idea, not implemented fully user firendly.
--> In lugbug if you missed a day you missed all the rewards for that day, in daeva pass you do not miss anything, you keep the rewards for the whole season and unlock them in steps via quest points,
--> The daeva pass has better rewards overall, ultimate enchnats, paragon enchants, a set amount of transformation fragments (only the legendary are too little) etc. The fact you can buy the steps is another good idea but they implemented it too expensive. So even if you cannot play a whole week you can always come back and do enough quests for enough points to unlock all rewards. In lugbug you would have missed a whole week worth of rewards. In daeva pass you can log once every 40 days and pay for everything and they unlock.
As I said the idea is better, the execution might be faulty or too expensive.3) The luna pouch issue is not an 8.4 thing, we still have the luna instance, NA removed the pouch from there and put it in lugbug daily, now they removed the lugbug and didn't re-implement the luna pouch elsewhere. If our servers never bugged due to bots in luna, the pouch would have still been there. 8.4 is irrelevant to that matter, this is clearly a NA feature.
Also doing quests in apsaranta is rather easy, give it a shot, usually camp 1 on elyos and camp 2 on asmodians are super easy and those two camps flip every half an hour or so.
~~~For daeva pass my only concern is that there are other seasonal quest that require to kill world bosses or enter some instances and I know will never do those, they give 250+ points, so I wonder if the daily and weekly points are enough to give me all the steps of the daeva pass for the whole season if I can't do those hardcore ones. And that is because the end reward has a lot of ultimate fragments for transformation.
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1 hour ago, MetaBlack-KT said:
Thanks! However, I noticed, Coffin buff significantly affects Kerub's quests (they also are affected by Berdin stars). The new Kerub's tiers are not homogenous, higher numbers give much more exp than the 1st one. With the Coffin buff, I leveled up to 85 for just doing a few quests about crafting and using Extraction Solvent. Everybody who has Aetherforging skill at 100+ level up for a few minutes. Materials for growing the crafting skill disappeared from the broker!
It writes I received 3,437,500,160 XP, while normally the quest gives 687,500,000 XP.
OK, then 2,5B is not the cap on the XP bar from one thing.
Yes kerub does interact with buffs and berdin stars, but they are not directly "quests" they are like apsaranta 4/4 rewards in a sense, at least they act like it.
Normal npc quests that you take and give to npcs usualy do not interact with XP buffs, only tea of repose.
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XP crystals are not affected by buffs or tea of repose, they only interact with Berdin Lucky Stars.
Quests are affected by Tea of Repose, but not from XP buffs or Berdin Stars
And some things are affected by all or a range of them. For example the 4/4 Apsaranta rewards are affected by XP buffs, I got 2,5B XP with coffin+rune buffs (I think this is a cap on level 85)
XP buffs usually multiply each other, Berdin Buff is not interacting by any other active or passive XP buff, they work alone and only give XP based on the basic XP the source gives.
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To make both rune and coffin buff work you need to wear the rune and then do the coffin buff, if you remove the rune while you have both quests no buff works (even if you still have the coffin buff), it bugs, if you change server (from normal to shared or back) or go to character screen and back it un-bugs and works again. If you have coffin buff and want to use the rune too you need to wear the rune and either change server or go to char screen and back.
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There is a threshold of when a game becomes unplayable.
P2w is ok when it gives convenience over f2p, when it gives exclusive necessary items that are impossible to get just by playing the game, then it gets to the point of unplayability.
Luna just became on of those things: important and p2w exclusive.
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36 minutes ago, HelliosRed-KT said:
Oh, really, thanks!!!
But it is a little too late, you can only make luna materials from luna weekly instance from now on.
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Apsaranta keeps getting less player friendly in every mini patch.
- Flipping camps is near impossible unless a big/geared group does it.
- Getting 4/4 quest rewards is halved after 8.3
- Leveling legions' renown in Apsaranta is time consuming and many times impossible because we need to flip camps and it might not happen. By the time we can reach a good level at renown, they get a rename (aka reset) so back to start.
We are also unable to make a reasonable amount of luna in game for necessities.
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10 minutes ago, TimelessAngel-KT said:
Lol im not alone
It happens to everyone! And it is neither consistent nor something you can reproduce at will. It happens randomly.
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Whatever problem people have with patches and updates and glitches into the game, there is one single issue you HAVE to solve for this to be regarded an official server. Whatever changes you did in the routing of the servers UNDO IT. We keep getting the same errors over and over again.
Many times the launcher doesn't even open, it shows the icon that it is about to launch and then it is stuck there and eventually ti closes!
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Other times I see an error like this, and without a single change in my ISP, NAC, firewall, antivirus and other settings, next try it might not bring this problem. I have gottent his issue both with and without ping reduction services.
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Other times we get this as mentioned in other topics as well:
And equally many times we get this (image taken taken from Shaidessa's post):
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I tested my connection with a ton of different sites and it is working 100%. People from USA also get this so it is not a problem that I am from Europe.
This is a connection issue that happens towards your server exclusively, I have 0 problems with all other games I am playing, only aion is a hit or miss whether we can connect to the OFFICIAL NA servers.
So far the experience we have in NA is like a 3rd class private server. You know what you changed to your hosting and this issue occurs, you keep making routing changes to make it cheaper to host Aion and you destroy the game before we can even log in to it.
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Fix your launcher or ditch it all together! It has only brought bugs so far.
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10 minutes ago, Arkaida-KT said:
Your not wrong...
but either way...giving out better items and limiting something that as you say are used for many things... to me I see balance...
I am only concerned that from now I cannot do fine retuning of the items unless I actually pay money. I would never waste luna to buy the p2w daeva pass myself.
But anyway, I will wait to see what NCWest decides. This is not the first time they made a change based on player input. A luna pouch would only make the game slightly easier for f2p people, the p2w will always have the advantage, and p2w daeva pass isn't even one of them, that is merely convenience to them.
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24 minutes ago, Arkaida-KT said:
HALF of the stupid deava pass is already free.... your already getting free stuff from deava pass... and better item's selection and more useful item's then the stupid quests they removed
I think you missed the point for luna pouch in this post. Nobody mentioned the daeva pass.
The daeva pass is indeed a much better feature than lugbug, you do not get rewards by doing the quests like lugbug, instead you get points and unlock steps, so this means if you miss a quest, you didn't miss the rewards of the daeva pass, you just have to do more quests to get enough points and if you miss a lot of days you are given the chance to buy some steps.
The rewards are also better, Lugbug had RNG rewards while the daeva pass has paragon enchants, ultimate enchants and plastic surgery ticket and they are not given by RNG but are solid rewards. Lastly the memory shards for the transformations are also a fixed amount so less gambling on that too.
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The plea for luna pouch is almost irrelevant to the daeva pass.
Luna is a currency required to get the buff for instances, special retune for items and craft things from the luna workshop including the kinah box.
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P2w people would still pay for it even if the luna pouch existed. I have seen people spend thousands per month in the game, they won't be sorry paying 50$ or something to buy the daeva pass. So bringing back the pouch won't make a dent in the pockets of NCWest because the people willing to pay for luna will still pay for it.
F2p people won't pay for luna now that it is p2w, they will just not participate in whatever luna is required which only increases the divide.
F2p people wouldn't farm luna pouches to buy the daeva pass either. Luna is used in many more things and most people keep them for those purposes.
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We need the pouch back some way, we have daily quests anyways, they could put it anywhere if they want to.
We were the first region to have the luna instance, (I think RU also had it) EU got it close to 7.something. We had it since 5.x if not earlier.
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4 minutes ago, Kearra said:
Sadly some of us are dual wielders or need weapons for other sets. Also the quest will no longer be transferable in broker or warehouse have to just grind out the bottles I was dying last week to farm 100 of them T~T
So they will make them soul bound... how awesome!
4 minutes ago, Alyta-DN said:I had no motivation to even bother collecting 100. Maybe this reset I will try, since I still use the Kerub mace and shield.
Maybe it is no longer possible, if what the other person said is true.
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The only thing I can't wait to see is where they put the luna pouch. Everything else is going to be similar to EU.
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30 minutes ago, taha-DN said:
tbh its not worth the grind if there only going to delete everything every few months upon a new update. only the ones who have huge banks that can flat out buy 300 relics can enjoys the stats for the duration of the season. for anyone else its just a waste unless they need the wep or the want the oaths, but buying 20 oaths im sure is cheaper the 200 relics tbh.
Thankfully the weapon is at level 100 only, it is rather doable to farm those, especially with the help of alts from that campaign that gives a 1-time reward of 5x brokerable holy water. Once you get the weapon, you never have to do that 100 level again in future seasons since it is the same weapon.
300 of them is too much for just 2~3 months worth of stats!
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2 hours ago, Shaidessa-KT said:
Hungry Hatchling
Event Dates: August 24 – October 19**Please note the following:
Event items will be deleted during the regular maintenance on Wednesday, October 26, 2022.
[Event] Stormwing Lv1~LV8 Summon Orb
[Event] Stormwing Lv1~LV8
[Event] Storm Token
[Event] Zudra's Gift Box
[Event] Zudra's Impressive Gift Box
[Event] Zudra's Prime Gift BoxIf the information on the event page is correct then you have one more week to open/unbundle your Gift Boxes before they are deleted.
I would open them anyway just to be safe... because NC.
So they gave 1 more week?
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6 hours ago, HelliosRed-KT said:
I've checked my old toons' Luna designs every day during the last few months, due to events forcing me to check all accounts every day, and some of them NEVER got a design for Luna (I mean Luna coins) during this time, while having quite many Luna Lights and other materials to craft Luna (coins), please tune yout RNG to give more of these designs!
The luna coin recipe is always present on the "special design" tab in the luna workshop, it has been like this since 6.0. Sometimes it might appear on the today's designs too.
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4 hours ago, HelliosRed-KT said:
What about Kerub's quests, can anyone answer? Will the old quests remain and new added or all will disappear and replaced by new ones?
The last time we got an upgrade on Kerub quests it got replaced, but the first tab of the quests is giving practically the same rewards at the first cycle was giving, which is the kerub starting gear.
So I assume that they will reset quests, probably upgraded and add a couple of things or remove some, but the first tab will definitely still give Kerub gear.
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7 hours ago, Hyperspace-KT said:
Just got this over and over again too. I'm trying to change my password and refresh my authorized locations to see if that helps. If not, I'm at a loss.
Edit: It worked. I was able to get back into the game. Let me know if it works for you guys.
You might have been lucky, this thing sometimes doesn't show up and other times it persists, if you keep trying to login with the problem eventually it logs you.
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8.4 is a frustration!
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And why did they remove all AP rewards from the Apsaranta quests? They used to give tons of AP every week, now you get 0.