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They probably should make it selectable, but I don't see it happening. The Q/A team is going to fix the main site preview apparently.

@Primali @EMpulseNot sure how many people have read the posting about 8.4 patch 2, but they have the transformations all messed up. It starts out okay at the top stating Vaizel and Triniel will be out, but then down below under: "[Transformation] New Transformation has been added. " It lists Lumiel and Yustiel which are from the Prism event. It even shows their stats and that prime runes are available for them which in both cases was already the case. I believe that section of the preview is supposed to describe Triniel and Vaizel ultis and their prime runes and maybe some way to get them (looks like ultimate breath combining). Could you please have whomever wrote the article make the needed correction? It would be nice too if we could be told how to get Yustiel and Lumiel now or if they are gone forever like our Luna access soon?

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Yes one that makes absolutely no sense at all. We had dredgions since beginning, why take it out? People who arent geared for pvp could still win pve. EC and KBF were getting lopsided and we'd struggle in those right now. They could have left ID and we'd have 6v6 which is good if matchups good. IMO Bring back any of the dredgions and ID. IB was kinda lame. Otherwise - rewards needed updated for sure. Put Hero Coins in 3 for win 1 for loss or 4 and 2. Arena is terrible a lot more people hack in there than elsewhere. We used to only need to pvp to get pvp gear, now you need to pve and even spend money. I could only guess they are slowly trying to get us off this server so they can shut it down and not pay us back?

We know who they are, it is obvious when fighting them. They can hide from DPS meter, but not veteran players of own class especially. The best Elyos PVPers are legit though. Sometimes can still kill elyos even with their hacks and "bugged" animations. I could just imagine what I could do if everything was instant. Cheating would never give a real player satisfaction or sense of accomplishment. It also does nothing to enhance their reputation or PVP reputation. There is no sense fighting those ones. I hope they get caught in a net soon. I remember this ranger last week kill 5 in group in like 8 seconds? Basically everyone on this side knows who is hacking on that side, plus some on this side even they don't try to hide it. It is up to ncsoft to address, if we can tell they sure can find out. Not fair though to lop the legit great Elyos players with those cheats, because they are good at what they do and yes, also geared, or semi-geared. FS vs FS still not bad.

Damn I haven't seen a stun call since I came back Jan 2021. Our top 3 never cared (maybe they didn't know?). Most important aspect of mass pvp too. Maybeeeee 1 time I heard one in a discord or something? Yeah there wasn't much strategy in anything on this side. I tried putting forward some, Shot liked when he was leading but no one else even replied - Shot is a good leader, Kaoru was too, but they were abandoned to do it alone near the end and its just too much for one person unless they are a totally dominant personality and RTS genius.

@Naduahshould be part of the leadership group and we should have a committee. I think Alyta suggested 3, I was thinking more. Anyway a 10 day break until siege season is over isnt a big deal. I can think of 10 people at minimum that should be in a leadership group. Its a game after all...a couple people shouldnt carry the burden of a near impossible task that requires miracles. We have tactical people and people who know what to do, when to do it, make good decisions, and make calls. I don't think one person should be leading the faction. They will fail over and over and burn out and quit. You guys don't realize how hard it is to get an alliance to anything. Agent is single digits usually. Ardath is no option. Legion defense is non-existent. Asmo deserve a break, people burned out fighting 1 v 10 because the best Elyos are smart and focus the only ones who can make a difference. Enjoy the green forts for the rest of season!

Not too surprised these days. They seem to not care what we think, let people openly hack (as ever). I don't think our NC reps have much say it seems Korea sending us crap. I guess some people weren't bugged but 100% we were i mean we even had people inside and outside circle same time and all died. Not worth the fight to be honest. Will just run and stop at 2nd last boss instead.

When we had Shedim and Malloc's league (multiple alliances at least) we were pretty equal even if they didn't get along. Before that maybe when Intensity and Incoming were leading things were pretty good. We have so many problems now that I think we need a reset. We have a lot of people who would lead together even still, but its a complete mess right now and when one steps up if we fail half of LFG is trashing them. Interestingly the 2 Agents we got were when your group was asleep. I think Darklaider was there for a bit for one, but we had BCM and Winry mainly leading, but Pixgon also and Flen out front with him it was really effective we basically lost all 4 of them now. That is impossible to replace. Plus we need paragon armor. I got a piece and its a big difference but our broker is terrible, only weapons and only 6s even though armor right side is as good an upgrade. Some kind of event that dumps tonnes of +4 pieces would be good. I don't know why Jan 2021 was the only decent event (tiamara eye where we got 24 armor boxes and 12 weapon boxes if you went on all 12 alts)...thats how I made my paragon 9 orb. Don't have it anymore, but would really help get people to 8s and hopefully 9s.

They'd have to make it one-way until things were reasonably close. In 2011 they stopped allow Elyos character creation on our server and others where imbalance was a problem. If our 30 v 100 became 60 vs 70 or 55 vs 75 that is reasonable close that we could actually use tactics and skill to offset the difference. I'm very sure NC can tell balance, and not include bots. Half of us could do it with access to their server.

Good point - the PVP buffs are missing from the most important aspects. I believe we are getting close to 700 Apostle Trans for Elyos vs 2 for Asmo on Agent alone. Right now we have level 3 PVP buffs and that's it. NC's decision to reward defending has ruined siege, not Asmo - nothing changed except more people quit and some of our best. I don't agree with griefing (or ganking) in general, but it used to be you could come to Gelk Asmo base and we would push back and push the Elyos out. That isn't the case anymore - no one can touch the group. Our transforms get melted by obscene numbers and dps. You should complain to NC about siege not us.

Taking a break gives Asmo a chance to work on morale, align faction, gear a little. Last Mastarius people were all for it and formed early, when it ended a lot of people just felt hopeless and questioning the actual game itself, fairly new I'd assume. Old players come back and leave after 2 weeks. Reallllly good ones. Hell we lost our best PVP DPS in Flen and also Ametista. We're losing years long people. Raiding Gelk base is NOT helping...imagine you start playing Aion after few weeks and see the opposite faction standing in one spot with all guards not doing anything and killing you over and over again? You think they really want to login ever again? Sure go kill the bots, but people alts running to Garden why? The more you grief Asmo the less pvp you will get and more npcs you can spend your time with. Whatever happened to fighting with honour? Well there are many, but, I think MechEagle termed it "not killing pinkies" when walking around Apsa. Why would I 2 shot some new player or someones alt when they are killing 1 single mob in apsa? I said earlier it has to get worse before it gets better. If balance continues to become even more overwhelming it may just die out completely.

On tactics absolutely right. No one actually even cares. Siege is now all the strong people farm GP while everyone else does things that make you facepalm. It is irrelevant. I mean on top of paragon monsters and double the transformations and just total numbers Elyos don't need tactics. Half the time people trying to lead don't go to the next siege because everyone blames them or maybe they feel like they failed. It is strictly numbers. We got Mastarius because 0 Elyos came. Last time 100-30 Kurumy said and 40 to 20 trans, plus multiple commander stuns and 170k HP people who dont take damage from even the strongest dps we have in the game tanking everyone because no one listens when you give good advice and instead "PUSH PUSH PUSH" right into milions of damage in middle of Mastarius. People don't care about siege much now, as agent and ardath before and soon as mastarius. My gosh you still need people animation hacking too. Everyone knows who they are, but NC refuses to address it even though it is OBVIOUS if they look at packet captures and logs. Last on toxicity, well there are a lot of problems there. The best geared asmos are gone or don't participate or just useless abusive fks like one of our vandals who broker bots and steals and catfishes even! So yeah most of us get along well, but then there's rotten people and then theres people who've been ostracized. Kromede still comes to Mastarius even though he gets trashed every siege. Totally NOT the way to solve our problems. Anyway things are so bad now no one even goes to WBs. PVP is pointless since you get destroyed by Beast or Casinitrate or have to deal with a zerg including noani hackers. Even YPW, the king of sorcs, can't do any damage to a lot of Elyos with insanely high stats. Anyway, no one should be banging their head on the wall attending impossible fights and getting crushed into the ground...that just makes things even worse and more people quit. How about give us Beauty and Beast and the team and we go 40 vs 90 see how things go?! What we need is morale boosting moments, more time to catch up, and now legion adjustments since Revenge is not the same. If we made a "One" or back when we had a discord and organized if they didn't alienate half the faction maybe things would improve. I think things just have to get worse before they get better and we need an assist from NC or we are completely screwed come Amulet. IMO Asmo should take time off and just do whatever they want. I don't like when people send them to the slaughter or don't have the parts to call it when it is hopeless. It is damaging and another problem. I mean we could go on and on about our problems. They are mentioned above too. BTW we did have a leadership coalition at least 8 or 9 involved, but lack of success really destroyed morale and deterred many attempts. Last agent was 7 vs 70! No one even cares anymore - yet no one ever tried to control timer. *shrug* just enjoy what we can and try get better and let legions reorganize and hope for an assist from NCsoft.

Pretty much what everyone said. We did best when we had multiple people leading - its too much for one person with the huge imbalance. At this point someone who steps up is only doomed to failure. NC's changes to siege sealed the fate of any decent siege. We have to wait for some changes before throwing some leader(s) to the wolves.

RIP. There is no leader that can have any success at all when its 100 v 30. Whomever takes up the mantle, or group of people will just get trolled incessantly when fail so no one wants to do it anymore. Reminds me of Kaisinel days.

Hello! I'd like to propose that you offer a Faction Change Ticket or just allow people to change faction. The change has to be -to- the dramatically underpopulated faction unless relatively balanced. I am quite confident you would be able to determine population levels. The Faction Change Ticket should provide for an equal transfer everything the person has including gear, collections, etc. Thanks.

Yeah I know, just being facetious. We have 2 problems right now. Not enough people to lead, unless you come in fairly small numbers or not at all (Mastarius 2 times ago). Losing people pretty fast. Second is NC has, shall we say, accidentally ruined siege? All the strongest players can't participate in siege because they have to get GP everywhere. Some don't care about rank, but last Divine when it was Balaur I couldn't count much past 30 people. NC has to take some responsibility. I think they fixed Divine at least where you don't get 500 gp for losing and killing one mob.

Aria you could always reroll. Team Beauty too - imagine all the pvp they would get.

@Primali The 6th boss Ardath is bugged in Void Trials. Whether you go in or out on the 2 moves you are supposed to Fantasy and Illusion you die. The circle on the floor for each skill is irrelevant because you die regardless.

Odds of a +7 going +8 with a Blessed Paragon stone are 2.15% (almost 50 stones). Odds of a +6 going +7 with a Blessed Paragon stone are 2.8%, close to 40 stones. With normal stones its 4.3% for the 7->8 and 5.6% for the 6->7. The fact that the odds for Blessed were half of normal stones was hidden from us for 2 years is rather frustrating still to this day. You don't know how many people used the published odds calculating cost and ending up wasting 100s of blessed stones and not achieving +10 *cough*.

Okay so nice and all there's a Paragon sale, but the fact is it is a complete waste to use Blessed Paragon stones because they only enchant at half the rate of normal paragon stones - so if someone buys a 5, 6 or even 7 box and spams blessed they are likely not to get to 9...maybe the 7 goes 8. We need lots of 0s and 4s, like dozens and use regular paragon stones to get 6 and go from there. In essence, give us a paragon event before the sale (or why not during the sale?). Asmo market, as I have said many times is pretty dead, so if someone spends their pay cheque to get a 7 and 6 or whatnot they likely won't make any progress for the charcter. If you gave us an event at the same time properly tailored with the sale it would be much more popular and rewarding to players and NC alike. 3 Item sales: So the +5 is the best "deal", but unlikely to reach 8, possibly even 7. The +6 and +7 are 2 more pieces even more unlikely to progress because the Blessed rate is halved. Maybe you could make the Blessed rate the same as regular ones...that would do the trick. Anyway spending say 20400 BCM to get 3 +7's with 90 blessed stones isnt going to get anyone much of anything unless lucky or decent RNG. These packages would be much more attractive if Blessed stones were equal odds OR as I mentioned earlier, this sale was combined with an event.

Aside from Siege and Demaha, we can buy a 1m ap item from Baron Shugo with ~250 event coins. Is a bit of a steep price, but one way to get a bit aside from HM and the others. No other ideas - I don't think any mobs anywhere give AP, but Arena gives a tiny bit.

Thank you - I hope enough people see this - will post in our discord. Our first 2 runs we thought everything was plate as it said "plate" as you pointed out, of course those are the 3 pieces that drop most often. We were confused maybe from last boss. Over 20 runs and 0 Leather tops, 1 Cloth top and plenty of Chain and Plate tops from last chest. Not fun for people going for those 2 sets. This will help a lot - after 20 runs I got it, but I'm sure a lot of people don't know.

We are definitely overdue for an UItimate Transformation event. I know Nezekan/Zikel and soon Vaizel/Triniel will be in the Ultimate Breath box, but perhaps Lumiel and Yustiel could be included in the combine list since right now there is no way to acquire them. Also if the event is run - make sure the prime rune box for people who successfully obtain an ultimate can select current prime runes too (up to 3 I believe).

Thanks for the great event! Baron Shugo does need an update; however it has everything I want and need right now so that's okay. Maybe for next time!