Arhangelos Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 (edited) Excuse you the information on sacred relic is utterly misleading, you made a ton of people do the relic system because the info made it look like it would last for a whole year since it was implemented! I personally didn't finish the first season because it was expensive for the little time it would last and I decided to sell the materials on broker. In this patch when I saw that the relic system would last a year, one holy water would go up to 70m in the beginning but I was like "let me spend 20 billion on 300 relics so I get that 300 m.attack for a whole year and all the other goodies". It is a scam, this is the shortest relic season so far. I know many people who did the relic for the same reason, that it would worth the investment for the period of time it would last. A friend of mine did a ton of work to do this on a total of 3 of her chars. Someone needs to tell those developers that resetting the apsaranta renown levels and the relics system at every single mini patch is not an update but a downgrade! Whoever thought about removing lugbug needs to stop making decisions on this game. Edited October 8, 2022 by Arhangelos 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacifist Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Yes That happend to me. I do all relic for get all stats for the time they tell in game and now that “update”? Some one need study what happend in this game! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeioKG Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Ncsoft team, first of all, I will report my experience with this one: "Fake calyce" I dedicated (2500 Hours Farming of these items in 12 characters) to get the most out of the game, so I ask, do you think this is fair??? Ncsoft team, do a personal reflection and analysis and see if this is right?? ex: if you were the players, and went through this, would you like it??? Me and all my friends think this is a total disrespect and disregard for the game and its community!! this precocious and unprepared attitude of withdrawing items acquired with a lot of effort and work, is a very big blow for us players. This is the famous "Misleading Advertising", this blessed "Chalice" required a lot of work and effort from the player, even knowing the Degree of difficulty and that it would only "Restart 1 year later" even so, in the players, we accept and invest our time in that!!!! now, for lack of a study and an internal analysis, the item will be withdrawn without reason, which was done in advance..... This is a huge lack of empathy with the "player" who spent more than 3/4 of the your time and your internal and external resources in this game cultivating that damn "Liar" item. We players, require you to do something about the "Get lvl 300" of this "fake Calicé". having done so, you should review the game's policy and see that this totally violates the game's policy. Have you ever stopped to think how many players will be discouraged and unmotivated due to this information and unprepared attitude of yours?? we, community players, demand immediate feedback on this initial attitude of "withdrawing" the item without any compensation to plyers. if this is not done, we will look for ways to report it together with the entire community. finally, in players, we think these "fake cups" should apply to the whole account and not to characters. @GMpulse anexo >>>https://files.fm/u/fsgnw4nex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeioKG Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, MeioKG said: Ncsoft team, first of all, I will report my experience with this one: "Fake calyce" I dedicated (2500 Hours Farming of these items in 12 characters) to get the most out of the game, so I ask, do you think this is fair??? Ncsoft team, do a personal reflection and analysis and see if this is right?? ex: if you were the players, and went through this, would you like it??? Me and all my friends think this is a total disrespect and disregard for the game and its community!! this precocious and unprepared attitude of withdrawing items acquired with a lot of effort and work, is a very big blow for us players. This is the famous "Misleading Advertising", this blessed "Chalice" required a lot of work and effort from the player, even knowing the Degree of difficulty and that it would only "Restart 1 year later" even so, in the players, we accept and invest our time in that!!!! now, for lack of a study and an internal analysis, the item will be withdrawn without reason, which was done in advance..... This is a huge lack of empathy with the "player" who spent more than 3/4 of the your time and your internal and external resources in this game cultivating that damn "Liar" item. We players, require you to do something about the "Get lvl 300" of this "fake Calicé". having done so, you should review the game's policy and see that this totally violates the game's policy. Have you ever stopped to think how many players will be discouraged and unmotivated due to this information and unprepared attitude of yours?? we, community players, demand immediate feedback on this initial attitude of "withdrawing" the item without any compensation to plyers. if this is not done, we will look for ways to report it together with the entire community. finally, in players, we think these "fake cups" should apply to the whole account and not to characters. @EMpulse @Deaves anexo >>>https://files.fm/u/fsgnw4nex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arhangelos Posted October 9, 2022 Author Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) They should have written the time correctly, if I knew that this would last only 5 months I wouldn't have done it this time either. They should give us all 300x untradeable new "holy water" to have that season too. This is not fair. Edited October 9, 2022 by Arhangelos 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tengu-DN Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 20 hours ago, Arhangelos said: They should have written the time correctly, if I knew that this would last only 5 months I wouldn't have done it this time either. They should give us all 300x untradeable new "holy water" to have that season too. This is not fair. More than a matter of not changing the date of when the season would expire, it is a matter that the NCSoft team does not know what to do with the game today, they wanted to squeeze some money out of the new two transformations, with that they decided include a new patch where a new season for asparanta will be included to give some history to that change, version 8.2 was released in May of this year and they hope to release version 8.4 next week, which is no more than 6 months of Empyrean Lords Season for NA, in korea that season lasted about a year if my memory serves, they want to implement things so fast that they don't realize the problems that those changes bring. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taha-DN Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 Honestly if there gonna screw us on this by doing a short season where ppl spent billions or worked there rears off to max there toons relics or get them well over 200 trying to hit 300 before yrs end then they should either comp us by either (1 ) giving us the stats we have now at the relic lvls we presently have . (2) start us out either at the point we are at now or atleast half way and reward us accordly. or (3) comp us with the same amount of relics we present have at this point in the season. to cut the season short just to fill up your wallets is just gonna drive more ppl away from the game, just another thing to discourage ppl from playing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenn Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 So if lugbug is now gone, how will we be getting luna now. With the premium pass rewards being unlocked with luna, i sense that it would be "forgotten" that it used to be in the luna instances instead, to nudge people into buying it from store? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartStrings-DN Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 This is upsetting for sure on the Relic.. I too saw that the relic said it would not expire until 05/3/2023 so being a returning player just a few months back I set out to get my Relic upto 300 so I could even be able to marginally play the game. This is extremely deceptive when you can not trust what you read in the game and invest lots of time into doing something like this. I would not have pursued this had I known that it would get reset back to 0. We would like to get our money back on this game we have spent @AION so we can take our game play to another game we can trust not to just randomly change something so major as this and impact all of our hard work and invested time like it was nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyta-DN Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 This is exactly why I didn't bother leveling up my relic this season. I knew it wasn't worth it and that it would be short. As if they would wait a year to launch the next update when all they do is gain extra profits from adding new transforms? I think the funniest part is that we'll have runestones for Lumiel and Yuestiel widely available before we get a full set of runes for the Zikel and Nezekan transforms that have been around since August 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyta-DN Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 7.9 May 05, 2021 https://www.aiononline.com/en-us/news/7-9-void-trials98 Days7.99 August 11, 2021 https://www.aiononline.com/en-us/news/799-patch-notes49 Days8.0 September 29, 2021 https://www.aiononline.com/en-us/news/patch-notes-8-0147 Days 8.1 February 23, 2022 https://www.aiononline.com/en-us/news/update-2-2270 Days8.2 May 04, 2022 https://www.aiononline.com/en-us/news/update-may-202270 Days 8.3 July 13, 2022 https://www.aiononline.com/en-us/news/aion-update-8-398 Days 8.4 October 19, 2022 https://www.aiononline.com/en-us/news/aion-8-4-preview-and-daeva-pass On 10/8/2022 at 5:55 PM, Arhangelos said: Excuse you the information on sacred relic is utterly misleading, you made a ton of people do the relic system because the info made it look like it would last for a whole year since it was implemented! I personally didn't finish the first season because it was expensive for the little time it would last and I decided to sell the materials on broker. In this patch when I saw that the relic system would last a year, one holy water would go up to 70m in the beginning but I was like "let me spend 20 billion on 300 relics so I get that 300 m.attack for a whole year and all the other goodies". It is a scam, this is the shortest relic season so far. I know many people who did the relic for the same reason, that it would worth the investment for the period of time it would last. A friend of mine did a ton of work to do this on a total of 3 of her chars. Someone needs to tell those developers that resetting the apsaranta renown levels and the relics system at every single mini patch is not an update but a downgrade! Whoever thought about removing lugbug needs to stop making decisions on this game. Why would you rely on that timer when they've already shown us how easy they can change it (multiple times)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsFreeEnergy Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 On 10/10/2022 at 12:49 PM, taha-DN said: Honestly if there gonna screw us on this by doing a short season where ppl spent billions or worked there rears off to max there toons relics or get them well over 200 trying to hit 300 before yrs end then they should either comp us by either (1 ) giving us the stats we have now at the relic lvls we presently have . (2) start us out either at the point we are at now or atleast half way and reward us accordly. or (3) comp us with the same amount of relics we present have at this point in the season. to cut the season short just to fill up your wallets is just gonna drive more ppl away from the game, just another thing to discourage ppl from playing. Transferring our relic level would be nice considering how hard people worked for their level 300 and all the people that were close to one of the big rewards. 1 hour ago, Alyta-DN said: This is exactly why I didn't bother leveling up my relic this season. I knew it wasn't worth it and that it would be short. As if they would wait a year to launch the next update when all they do is gain extra profits from adding new transforms? I think the funniest part is that we'll have runestones for Lumiel and Yuestiel widely available before we get a full set of runes for the Zikel and Nezekan transforms that have been around since August 2021. Yeah, the runestone situation is pretty bad. It would be nice if they added more ways to get the old highest grade ones before we get a whole new set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaidessa-KT Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 I repeat, they will be doing this again with Triniel/Vaizel. https://aion.plaync.com/board/notice/view?articleId=6329747c63ab6036fee71139 I expect the update after that will be Azphel/Ariel as they are the only ones they haven't released yet. It is up to the individual player to decide if they want to put in the grind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arhangelos Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 9 hours ago, Alyta-DN said: 7.9 May 05, 2021 https://www.aiononline.com/en-us/news/7-9-void-trials98 Days7.99 August 11, 2021 https://www.aiononline.com/en-us/news/799-patch-notes49 Days8.0 September 29, 2021 https://www.aiononline.com/en-us/news/patch-notes-8-0147 Days 8.1 February 23, 2022 https://www.aiononline.com/en-us/news/update-2-2270 Days8.2 May 04, 2022 https://www.aiononline.com/en-us/news/update-may-202270 Days 8.3 July 13, 2022 https://www.aiononline.com/en-us/news/aion-update-8-398 Days 8.4 October 19, 2022 https://www.aiononline.com/en-us/news/aion-8-4-preview-and-daeva-pass Why would you rely on that timer when they've already shown us how easy they can change it (multiple times)? I have no clue what these days are showing that you mention, the sacred relic didn't reset in every mini patch. The timer was always there and it was always kinda accurate. How could I know the timer was a placebo only? And if the timer is there then it shows that they tricked us, here we are asking for a solution to this. I am not going to do the next season no matter the amount of days it says because I do not trust them on this unless they specifically come here on forums and tell us the exact days it can last or if they tell us "it might change" so we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arhangelos Posted October 13, 2022 Author Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Alyta-DN said: 7.9 May 05, 2021 https://www.aiononline.com/en-us/news/7-9-void-trials98 Days7.99 August 11, 2021 https://www.aiononline.com/en-us/news/799-patch-notes49 Days8.0 September 29, 2021 https://www.aiononline.com/en-us/news/patch-notes-8-0147 Days 8.1 February 23, 2022 https://www.aiononline.com/en-us/news/update-2-2270 Days8.2 May 04, 2022 https://www.aiononline.com/en-us/news/update-may-202270 Days 8.3 July 13, 2022 https://www.aiononline.com/en-us/news/aion-update-8-398 Days 8.4 October 19, 2022 https://www.aiononline.com/en-us/news/aion-8-4-preview-and-daeva-pass Why would you rely on that timer when they've already shown us how easy they can change it (multiple times)? And sorry for the double post, a ton of people were mislead by this and did the Relic because of that timer. I have friends who invested in more than 1 characters because of the timer. Yes they change things here and there but we cannot stop participating in the game because every information there is is potentially fake and can "change". What are we supposed to do, take for granted every timer or item or information or number in the client is by default fake because NCWest cannot be trusted? Edited October 13, 2022 by Arhangelos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyta-DN Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Arhangelos said: I have no clue what these days are showing that you mention, the sacred relic didn't reset in every mini patch. The timer was always there and it was always kinda accurate. How could I know the timer was a placebo only? And if the timer is there then it shows that they tricked us, here we are asking for a solution to this. I am not going to do the next season no matter the amount of days it says because I do not trust them on this unless they specifically come here on forums and tell us the exact days it can last or if they tell us "it might change" so we know. They increased the timer on the relic in the past. Twice if I'm not mistaken. I had a feeling they just made the date further ahead into the future this time around so then they wouldn't have to go through the problems of extending durations again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyta-DN Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 I put the numbers of days between each patch and linked the notes. I know not every patch reset the relics. 2 hours ago, Arhangelos said: And sorry for the double post, a ton of people were mislead by this and did the Relic because of that timer. I have friends who invested in more than 1 characters because of the timer. Yes they change things here and there but we cannot stop participating in the game because every information there is is potentially fake and can "change". What are we supposed to do, take for granted every timer or item or information or number in the client is by default fake because NCWest cannot be trusted? Assume it's about 2-3 months per "season". 3 hours ago, Shaidessa-KT said: I repeat, they will be doing this again with Triniel/Vaizel. https://aion.plaync.com/board/notice/view?articleId=6329747c63ab6036fee71139 I expect the update after that will be Azphel/Ariel as they are the only ones they haven't released yet. It is up to the individual player to decide if they want to put in the grind. They will go through all the lords/ladies in time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iostcrazyman-KT Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Shaidessa-KT said: I repeat, they will be doing this again with Triniel/Vaizel. https://aion.plaync.com/board/notice/view?articleId=6329747c63ab6036fee71139 I expect the update after that will be Azphel/Ariel as they are the only ones they haven't released yet. It is up to the individual player to decide if they want to put in the grind. Azphel Ariel pssh I want Siel and Israphel Edited October 13, 2022 by Iostcrazyman-KT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErzaScarletxFT Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 41 minutes ago, Iostcrazyman-KT said: Azphel Ariel pssh I want Siel and Israphel In this case Siel or Israphel are not divided between Seraphim and Shedim Lords. So you not going to see them supporting the Elyos or the Asmodian in Apsaranta and in the History Siel Sacrified herself, so she is dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iostcrazyman-KT Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 13 hours ago, ErzaScarletxFT said: In this case Siel or Israphel are not divided between Seraphim and Shedim Lords. So you not going to see them supporting the Elyos or the Asmodian in Apsaranta and in the History Siel Sacrified herself, so she is dead. I don't mean as far as agents I would just rather see them in game would be nice since right around lumiel and yustiel becoming agents the transforms came out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arhangelos Posted October 14, 2022 Author Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) On 10/13/2022 at 5:35 AM, Alyta-DN said: They increased the timer on the relic in the past. Twice if I'm not mistaken. I had a feeling they just made the date further ahead into the future this time around so then they wouldn't have to go through the problems of extending durations again. That seems to be the case, they increase the timer of sacred Relic by way too much at the beginning of the 8.3 to be sure but no matter how long it takes them to put bring out 8.4, the sacred Relic would still be active. But this created a big problem to all of us now, I'm not going to invest in any sacred Relic season ever again, I'll take your word on that for granted, the season is 2, 3 or 4 months or something. Edited October 14, 2022 by Arhangelos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taha-DN Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 tbh its not worth the grind if there only going to delete everything every few months upon a new update. only the ones who have huge banks that can flat out buy 300 relics can enjoys the stats for the duration of the season. for anyone else its just a waste unless they need the wep or the want the oaths, but buying 20 oaths im sure is cheaper the 200 relics tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arhangelos Posted October 19, 2022 Author Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, taha-DN said: tbh its not worth the grind if there only going to delete everything every few months upon a new update. only the ones who have huge banks that can flat out buy 300 relics can enjoys the stats for the duration of the season. for anyone else its just a waste unless they need the wep or the want the oaths, but buying 20 oaths im sure is cheaper the 200 relics tbh. Thankfully the weapon is at level 100 only, it is rather doable to farm those, especially with the help of alts from that campaign that gives a 1-time reward of 5x brokerable holy water. Once you get the weapon, you never have to do that 100 level again in future seasons since it is the same weapon. 300 of them is too much for just 2~3 months worth of stats! Edited October 19, 2022 by Arhangelos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kearra Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, Arhangelos said: Thankfully the weapon is at level 100 only, it is rather doable to farm those, especially with the help of alts from that campaign that gives a 1-time reward of 5x brokerable holy water. Once you get the weapon, you never have to do that 100 level again in future seasons since it is the same weapon. 300 of them is too much for just 2~3 months worth of stats! Sadly some of us are dual wielders or need weapons for other sets. Also the quest will no longer be transferable in broker or warehouse have to just grind out the bottles I was dying last week to farm 100 of them T~T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alyta-DN Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 15 minutes ago, Arhangelos said: Thankfully the weapon is at level 100 only, it is rather doable to farm those, especially with the help of alts from that campaign that gives a 1-time reward of 5x brokerable holy water. Once you get the weapon, you never have to do that 100 level again in future seasons since it is the same weapon. 300 of them is too much for just 2~3 months worth of stats! I had no motivation to even bother collecting 100. Maybe this reset I will try, since I still use the Kerub mace and shield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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