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WHINGING!

I finally understand how Donald Trump became a president.

and on that note, I agree with him, we MUST build a wall, a wall to separate us from these brainless plebs.

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8 hours ago, Johngunmad-KT said:

Momo your entire post is based on what I'm saying is wrong. Do you honestly doubt me?

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You must honestly suck at PVP if even need to attempt getting gear that high,and pay to win right there,what did you do get the item restored on separate alts when they explode like most pay2win bads.

It's player's like you that ruined any form of fun and competitive pvp, baddys that cant win via skill only their wallets.And dont bother saying havent spent anything cause you just make yourself look even more foolish.

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Hunie-KT   

Leaving the delusional guy behind, I really want to thank whoever started this thread, bless this post. I thought no one else was complaining lol

As a support cleric, I spend most of my kinah and some money on making support sets; therefore, my top dps accessories are +2/+3, I can't believe how ridiculous the chances are to get 'em +5. I have seen friends failing over 10 accessories trying to temper a single one to +5, so now, trying to temper them to +7 it's just way beyond insane. Most of us just gave up on tempering our own accessories and just buy them off broker, but still, with retarded prices as 8 billion for a single earring makes me wanna give up on the game.

China and Japan needed to temper the accessories to +5 in order to upgrade, why NA didn't get it? Hello? Korea got tempering events where their accessories wouldn't break or just go down by 1, that's why they had to temper them to +7. IF NA has to +7 the accessories then give us the same event as Korean servers had, since this is way beyond for most normal and casual players capability.

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I work for a casino, a mid level one. Net profits range around 18 million annually. Slot machines, video poker, games, they are all ranged and they are adjustable within legal percentages. With all the people that come through our doors regularly and most are returning users, the percentage that walk out with big wins in their pockets is less than 10%. The same can be said with players getting gear to +20, +25 whatever. Not all have the same odds in their favor, therefore NcSoft has limited themselves to a smaller player base that will stay and support them. Putting all their eggs in one basket sort of. I remember the days of trying to socket 6 slots on gear, before supplements were around, and get to the last slot and all break. Was common to hear about players going through hundreds of stones for one piece of gear. Personally I know of two that left the game because of it and never came back.

 Not all have unlimited resources and time to get a full set of +7 accessories, and they will eventually leave. If they didn't break it would be a different story, but they have chosen to stick with a very bad and very unpopular mechanic. They have chosen to not listen to the player base for NA. December 2016 the Korean Devs came and were interested in what the NA player base had to say, and would look into what was needed to be done. Slightly over one year later and....what.

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Scap-KT   

pay to win is an illusion, guys. i made 80bil in 2 weeks with this one weird trick

 

tbh they should just make purifying require +10 accs and add a system message for failing tempering past +7 saying "xxx has failed to temper prime accessory to +8"

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28 minutes ago, Shayded-KT said:

I work for a casino, a mid level one. Net profits range around 18 million annually. Slot machines, video poker, games, they are all ranged and they are adjustable within legal percentages. With all the people that come through our doors regularly and most are returning users, the percentage that walk out with big wins in their pockets is less than 10%. The same can be said with players getting gear to +20, +25 whatever. Not all have the same odds in their favor, therefore NcSoft has limited themselves to a smaller player base that will stay and support them. Putting all their eggs in one basket sort of. I remember the days of trying to socket 6 slots on gear, before supplements were around, and get to the last slot and all break. Was common to hear about players going through hundreds of stones for one piece of gear. Personally I know of two that left the game because of it and never came back.

 Not all have unlimited resources and time to get a full set of +7 accessories, and they will eventually leave. If they didn't break it would be a different story, but they have chosen to stick with a very bad and very unpopular mechanic. They have chosen to not listen to the player base for NA. December 2016 the Korean Devs came and were interested in what the NA player base had to say, and would look into what was needed to be done. Slightly over one year later and....what.

Korea doesn't listen,in fact this company probaly has some of the worst interaction with it's player's iv'e ever seen,anyone thats played a Blizzard game knows how much their developer's,gms interact with the community and listen to feedback.

Korea knows players are tired of the grind,exploding gear and poor experience from quests and instances and pay2win aspects yet have done little to alleviate it this patch.

Instead we get another pay2win stigma system really +9 stigmas nice work that one.

Enchanting a nice stealth increase of supps from 400too 50 for level 14-15 milking us some more till 6.0 when we dont need supps again.

A totally inadequate increase too fissure Xp really 50% please thanks for that extra 0.25% if we are lucky post 72+,leveling easy in 6.0 but lets milk player's for another year.

Didnt even have the decency to add a perma 200% xp buff for at least 1 month too coincide with homeward bound event.

Couldnt even reduce Xp to level from 66+ by like 20% even.

And yes accessorys thanks so much for not stopping them exploding and keeping them at +7 for purifys without giving Na player's temper events where they dont break and only go down in a level.

It's clear they treat different regions worse or better the game should be the same all regions not give some regions garbage,you cannot rely on whales forever,by making the game more accessible to more player's you will make more money.

And when will we ever get 200% amulets for 66+ or liquid Xps it's so blatantly clear your milking the playerbase by this garbage grind stop treating player's so poorly if you want to make money make better game design choices.

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oh and one final thing MINIONS

I thought this game was meant to be player vs player not player vs minions,i have no issue with these minions giving stats such as hp,mb,ma etc or even pvp defense.

However to let them have damage skills and just recently increased pvp damage on some minions is lame,so now we are going have minions hitting us for what 10k+ on top of player's, great great game direction truly,just go from one bad choice to another.

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4 minutes ago, marikazan-KT said:

oh and one final thing MINIONS

I thought this game was meant to be player vs player not player vs minions,i have no issue with these minions giving stats such as hp,mb,ma etc or even pvp defense.

However to let them have damage skills and just recently increased pvp damage on some minions is lame,so now we are going have minions hitting us for what 10k+ on top of player's, great great game direction truly,just go from one bad choice to another.

Yeah its a bit much the minions, that's the only real thing you can win by paying. Problem is inconsistency as there was only one minium sale and getting contracts from luna from what I heard isn't so easy, but it is a guaranteed investment. Took a lot of kinah to get a max Sheba.

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so the +7 accessories got me thinking into the situation i am dealling now ... i failed 17 accessories for +5 (not even kidding for the number) and  i am not full +5 yet so the chances for me to get full +7 are lower than the location of hell but if i don't get the new accessories i wont be able to be even competitive because it's literally like i am using lvl 65 eternal ap accessories vs the lvl 75 we are using now so my request to nc is,please guys make the accessories purifiable from +5 and if you need that bad the money make an errand i am sure a lot of ppl would like to help....

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Come on people!. 

Just wait some more days to see how 6.0 will be. At this point it seems that the stats will change a lot. Our current numbers in stats will could be nothing compared with the new ones. Just wait a little. The info shared to this point make me think that all our current possible gear will be just like wearing skins. Try to no make "really expensive skins". And even if some people says that the best items from 6.8 will be exchanged for new items in 6.0. We still do not know how good those items are. Maybe are just "meh gear". One of those gears that every player will have after 2 weeks playing. 

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On 1/13/2018 at 0:56 PM, marikazan-KT said:

oh and one final thing MINIONS

I thought this game was meant to be player vs player not player vs minions,i have no issue with these minions giving stats such as hp,mb,ma etc or even pvp defense.

However to let them have damage skills and just recently increased pvp damage on some minions is lame,so now we are going have minions hitting us for what 10k+ on top of player's, great great game direction truly,just go from one bad choice to another.

Normal pets already done that. Why add in more normal pets that no one will buy when you can just add in stronger pets that nyerk UP YOUR ENEMY.

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10 hours ago, Azzmaria-KT said:

Come on people!. 

Just wait some more days to see how 6.0 will be. At this point it seems that the stats will change a lot. Our current numbers in stats will could be nothing compared with the new ones. Just wait a little. The info shared to this point make me think that all our current possible gear will be just like wearing skins. Try to no make "really expensive skins". And even if some people says that the best items from 6.8 will be exchanged for new items in 6.0. We still do not know how good those items are. Maybe are just "meh gear". One of those gears that every player will have after 2 weeks playing. 

NA Aion gets the patch about 6 months after Korea does so we are propablly going to get the Aion 6.0 at the summer and unfortunatelly it's not just few  days untill then lol..in about 2 months there will be ppl running around having those +7(or more since they don't break upon faillure) lvl 80 ap accessories while we will still don't have any +7 lvl 75 accessories to purify to the lvl 80 ones so it's gonna be like fighting ppl with +11 accessories and that means that they will be able to 2 shot ppl..

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Yes, it does not make sense for it to be 7 in NA because in Korea they have had multiple tempering event that only reduce temperance level by 1 upon failure instead of a broken accessory, and to upgrade in Korea its required to be +7. Here we have never had such an event or even a reliable way to collect the multiple accessory to attempt +7 with out spending hundreds of dollars just to gamble and possibly get nothing at all.

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4 hours ago, Gaup-KT said:

Yes, it does not make sense for it to be 7 in NA because in Korea they have had multiple tempering event that only reduce temperance level by 1 upon failure instead of a broken accessory, and to upgrade in Korea its required to be +7. Here we have never had such an event or even a reliable way to collect the multiple accessory to attempt +7 with out spending hundreds of dollars just to gamble and possibly get nothing at all.

Ummn Kumuki, we've been getting lots of AP and Spinel medals from that event. I hear Mirash Sanctum you get level 70 AP pieces which you can trade for plenty of AP (like 200k AP), also I don't believe Korea or any other region were bugged for returning player event like we are, so a lot of us can get 2 free temperings from Home coming event.

Other characters who could open the twins gift would get an additional 2 temperings and omega.

Even more so I hear a good number of people have accounts with level 1's with both the new and returning player support bundle. By the time they get to 65 in 3 hours or less they will get 8 temperings and 2 omega which is a lot.

I also hear it's a real grind to farm purification materials as well, you have to be playing hardcore for a week just to have enough for a ring. A lot of competitive players don't even know where to begin farming it, while others who in different time zones to take advantage of siege, ever gale and other instances.

I believe that grind is the real problem, not one's ability to +7 a 75 AP accessory piece.

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2 hours ago, Antungongw-DN said:

Ummn Kumuki, we've been getting lots of AP and Spinel medals from that event. I hear Mirash Sanctum you get level 70 AP pieces which you can trade for plenty of AP (like 200k AP), also I don't believe Korea or any other region were bugged for returning player event like we are, so a lot of us can get 2 free temperings from Home coming event.

Other characters who could open the twins gift would get an additional 2 temperings and omega.

Even more so I hear a good number of people have accounts with level 1's with both the new and returning player support bundle. By the time they get to 65 in 3 hours or less they will get 8 temperings and 2 omega which is a lot.

I also hear it's a real grind to farm purification materials as well, you have to be playing hardcore for a week just to have enough for a ring. A lot of competitive players don't even know where to begin farming it, while others who in different time zones to take advantage of siege, ever gale and other instances.

I believe that grind is the real problem, not one's ability to +7 a 75 AP accessory piece.

Here is my example as i said to my previus post i failed 17 accessories and i am not full +5 yet so doing the math that makes (counting the lowest value the rings ,wasn't only rings btw) 71x80= 1360 medals and 17x1kk ap=17kk ap also i bought those i am using now so on top of that 7 more accessories but anyways the point is i failed 1360medals and 17kk ap accessories so no kumuki wasn't that helpfull for me lol

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18 minutes ago, Tenshei-DN said:

Here is my example as i said to my previus post i failed 17 accessories and i am not full +5 yet so doing the math that makes (counting the lowest value the rings ,wasn't only rings btw) 71x80= 1360 medals and 17x1kk ap=17kk ap also i bought those i am using now so on top of that 7 more accessories but anyways the point is i failed 1360medals and 17kk ap accessories so no kumuki wasn't that helpfull for me lol

If you can't get +7 what makes you think others can? If someone like you puts that much effort I highly doubt there would be people with level 80 AP accessories in the first place.

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The true p2w's or the ultimate in lucky folks have +7 accs. The ones who are already geared out the ass, and, soon enough, they'll be even more insurmountably geared than the regular, unlucky pleb.

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2 hours ago, Cheesecake-DN said:

The true p2w's or the ultimate in lucky folks have +7 accs. The ones who are already geared out the ass, and, soon enough, they'll be even more insurmountably geared than the regular, unlucky pleb.

How the heck does Ncoin get your AP accessories, you can't even buy temperings anymore.

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9 hours ago, TradedKatForSam-KT said:

How the heck does Ncoin get your AP accessories, you can't even buy temperings anymore.

Multiple NCoin events in the past have sold temperings, let alone the tempering sale we just had, like, a week or two ago.

NCoin can legally get you kinah and things like kumuki reset scrolls. With kinah, you can buy accessories straight up from other players, as well as the medals and even the AP (inefficiently, but you can still buy the protectorate keys on the broker). With kumuki reset scrolls, for about four minutes' effort, you can get 100k+ AP and at least four medals a run. Let alone how much AP some players have hoarded over the years. And that's just some of how they can do it.

If you've got time and money, you can easily outpace the scrubtier players and even get +7 accs.

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Win-KT   

TradedKatForSam-KT "How the heck does Ncoin get your AP accessories, you can't even buy temperings anymore"

 

You so innocent, or you dont play the game. Yes you can p2w like Cheesecake-DN said by buying stuffs from BCM and sell in kinah, but most of the p2w people I know... They buy kinah from other people and buy the acc +7 or they just pay real life money to the person for the acc.

Yes, they not giving ncsfot money, but they are still playing to win in a certain way.

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