Aly-DN Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Just now, Dreaming-KT said: Or you’re going to hear people crying about anti cheat not working but in reality it’s just people who can’t deal with the fact that they are bad and they can’t afford a good internet plan and a good pc. Very true. But those are tears we already see, right? I am hoping for some new ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreaming-KT Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Just now, Aly-DN said: Very true. But those are tears we already see, right? I am hoping for some new ones. I can’t wait to have a computer again ! The feeling I get when people report me for hacking is just wonderful. #BBsong best SW na Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambdachi-DN Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 I did some research on other games, in this case Black Desert Online, that use this software and essentially it appears to be very invasive. I remember when Capcom tried to implement anti-cheat using a rootkit in Street Fighter 5 on the PC and the community threw a fit and the backed down. A damning quotes from the link: Quote Game uses "Xing Code" Anti Cheat Rootkit... Once installed can't be uninstalled by Add & Remove, or Basic Methods even with uninstall of Black Desert, and this is downloaded after launching the game for the first time without asking you. Quote or those looking for more information, the game silently installs a hidden "service" under the name "xhunter1" loading the binary C:\Windows\xhunter1.sys. The service is set to manual start, so won't run automatically when you boot Windows. To manually uninstall it, open a command prompt as administrator and run the following commands: net stop xhunter1 reg delete HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\xhunter1 del C:\Windows\xhunter1.sys Quote It's set to not show in the list of services. Open "regedit" and look for the path mentioned in my quote. I bet it's there if you've ran the game. More technically: The sub key "type" is set to "1", marking it as a kernel mode driver file – therefore it's not shown to the user as the user isn't supposed to block/stop such services. This also means the service will run with highest access rights on your system, allowing it to (theoretically) access and modify any hardware connected to your computer, including any storage devices, network interfaces (logging outgoing and incoming packets), input devices (key logging), etc. Edit: You can also run the following line from any command prompt (doesn't have to run as administrator) to list the service information: reg query HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\xhunter1 The output will look like this: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\xhunter1 DisplayName REG_SZ xhunter1 WOW64 REG_DWORD 0x1 Type REG_DWORD 0x1 Start REG_DWORD 0x3 ErrorControl REG_DWORD 0x1 ImagePath REG_EXPAND_SZ \??\C:\WINDOWS\xhunter1.sys I'm at work but to anyone who started playing after the patch please verify this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreaming-KT Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, Lambdachi-DN said: I did some research on other games, in this case Black Desert Online, that use this software and essentially it appears to be a root kit. I remember when Capcom tried to implement anti-cheat using a rootkit in Street Fighter 5 on the PC and the community threw a fit and the backed down. A damning quotes from the link: I'm at work but to anyone who started playing after the patch please verify this. Why are you so scared that ncsoft knows what you do ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambdachi-DN Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Dreaming-KT said: Why are you so scared that ncsoft knows what you do ? Why do they need to know what I do? Besides, the code remains and the service runs even if you uninstall the game, just like we found it with Street Fighter 5 and the people who played Black Desert Online. Finally, any of the cheat writers know how to code, they'll bypass it and still cheat and the rest of us get screwed as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaHurr-DN Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, Lambdachi-DN said: I did some research on other games, in this case Black Desert Online, that use this software and essentially it appears to be very invasive. I remember when Capcom tried to implement anti-cheat using a rootkit in Street Fighter 5 on the PC and the community threw a fit and the backed down. A damning quotes from the link: I'm at work but to anyone who started playing after the patch please verify this. Confirmed. File is on my system and created when I updated Aion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesecake-DN Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Then I guess it's time to stop playing, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambdachi-DN Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 1 hour ago, DaHurr-DN said: Confirmed. File is on my system and created when I updated Aion. Damn it 1 hour ago, yess-DN said: [removed] Yeah like I thought, any cheater worth their salt will bypass this. Gameguard and its ilk are useless. Furthermore, the software sends information to a remote sever as it scans. Where is this information going and to who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wulfson-DN Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 After making the hacking point for years, it seems that some one finally moved from the greedy concept and instituted the program. Good luck with it, after playing since beta and the lack of policing the game until it's too late. Be Safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vantheria-DN Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, Dreaming-KT said: Why are you so scared that ncsoft knows what you do ? So I'm not speaking for @Lambdachi-DN, but I will speak for myself. I have Aion installed on my home computer, obviously, and I also have it installed on my work computer. I'm a project manager at a firm that manages military construction. Needless to say, I see some files that are absolutely confidential through my career. I cannot have a program scanning my work computer. I don't care about my home computer, and I will continue to play on that computer. But I am going to have to uninstall Aion from my work computer. (Goodbye, afking events~) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reewa-DN Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Well I was able run Shugo console and play normally. But the Shugo console is not working anymore. Btw there is no difference in my fps or ping. Same thing. Not bad at all but still crying hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambdachi-DN Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, Vantheria-DN said: So I'm not speaking for @Lambdachi-DN, but I will speak for myself. I have Aion installed on my home computer, obviously, and I also have it installed on my work computer. I'm a project manager at a firm that manages military construction. Needless to say, I see some files that are absolutely confidential through my career. I cannot have a program scanning my work computer. I don't care about my home computer, and I will continue to play on that computer. But I am going to have to uninstall Aion from my work computer. (Goodbye, afking events~) It not just the military that wants privacy, remember this is tax season so there are financial documents on people's PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesecake-DN Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, Vantheria-DN said: So I'm not speaking for @Lambdachi-DN, but I will speak for myself. I have Aion installed on my home computer, obviously, and I also have it installed on my work computer. I'm a project manager at a firm that manages military construction. Needless to say, I see some files that are absolutely confidential through my career. I cannot have a program scanning my work computer. I don't care about my home computer, and I will continue to play on that computer. But I am going to have to uninstall Aion from my work computer. (Goodbye, afking events~) Hahaha yeah, I have a laptop that contains no work stuff that I use. We have a wifi here that's separate from the main network for connecting unsecured devices to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heskan-DN Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Shugo console is running normal here. Thank god. Try to run it before NC launcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreaming-KT Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, Lambdachi-DN said: It not just the military that wants privacy, remember this is tax season so there are financial documents on people's PC. No one cares if you make 40k a year ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboCawk-DN Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 All these people saying the cheaters will quit, very unlikely because most of them also were wallet players and wont just leave but 1 thing for sure is that they will be using the lag excuse lol and also will be trying everything in their powers to bypass the cheat code. Cant wait to see how it is though starting today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjHel-DN Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, Lambdachi-DN said: It not just the military that wants privacy, remember this is tax season so there are financial documents on people's PC. This. Also, don't want this crap on the (brand new and custom built) computer either. Aion already runs like shit, I don't need to add even more stuff on top of it to boot. (i7-8700, 1080ti and 16gb ram and I still crash constantly in the new zones if I'm not running like a slideshow.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryos-DN Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Oh no, my female Balaur porn is being seeing by NC employees! ...Have fun with the Sheba ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjHel-DN Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Just now, Bryos-DN said: Oh no, my female Balaur porn is being seeing by NC employees! ...Have fun with the Sheba ones. Oh you. Tiamat is still bae though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vocifera-DN Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Sandboxie doesn't work no more soloing instances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesecake-DN Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 All these people posting shit you PM Cyan. Stop giving that potato free advertising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalPhantomEvil-DN Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Does anyone know if Shugo Console (program to zoom) is released? Are not you going to have a problem with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heskan-DN Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 I saw people complaining about it in LFG, exactly because of FoV. I use it to get decent FPS and I hope they keep allowing it. Also, the advantage you get because of FoV is almost nothing if you think about some 3rd party programs that makes you do some normally impossible things in-game. [removed] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahli-DN Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 @Cyan Here we go again with shugo console discussion. I would love to know for SURE if I can use it or not. (Being able to run it even with Xigncode may be already an answer, but idk.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aion Team Cyan Posted February 21, 2018 Author Aion Team Share Posted February 21, 2018 Hello everyone, I would like to remind all users that posting information on third-party ToS breaking tools is not allowed, at all. We understand there are a lot of concerns and questions regarding XIGNCODE3 and everything that comes with it. We can't answer every question on what's allowed and what's not allowed because simply there's too many variables to say how any program impacts the game. With the release of XIGNCODE3 today, we've began monitoring and collecting data to ensure it meets our expectations. As stated before, if you are having issues getting into the game today, please head over to this thread to report the issue and contact Customer Support. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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