Daeva Gideon Posted March 15, 2018 Daeva Share Posted March 15, 2018 Hi everyone, Yesterday we had to temporarily disable the Tiamaranta's Eye event. This was solely due to unforeseen implications on game balance and economy health that the event posed in its original form.. We know this is a popular event, and the disabling occured during our peak hours, so please accept our sincerest apologies. For transparency on what led to this decision, our understanding was that the Gold Protectorate Coin Bundle was set to party loot, not league loot. As such, we set up the merchant prices with the assumption that only 6 players at a time would be looting the bundles, when in actuality up to 192 players could receive them at once (while leagues rarely get this large, an event like this could have eventually seen those numbers). This influx of coins meant a massive economic impact for everything available from the event - PvE and PvP gear (via Commander Soulstones), Tempering Solution, Omega Enchantment Stones, and +11 and +12 Manastones. The game's economy could have suffered lasting damage at least until 6.0, which is several months away. More importantly, any players who missed out on the event would be essentially at a permanent disadvantage until that update, which was why we ultimately decided to pull the event. After consulting with the dev team and determining our options, here is how we are planning to fix the situation: Reopen the event today, with the current loot settings, but with the merchants temporarily disabled. As quickly as we can (possibly as early as next maintenance), bring back the merchants. The coin prices will need to be modified in order to protect economic balance, but the items will still be there and will still be obtainable. A survey will be available to players in Tiamaranta's Eye with the following items until maintenance on 3/21 (the first week of the event): 20 Luna 100 Gold Protectorate Coins 2 [Event] Omega Enchantment Stones 2 [Event] Tempering Solutions 1 Sunayaka's Soulstone Box (contains your choice of 10 Commander Soulstones) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterSensei-DN Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 10/10 worst decision I've seen, I'd much rather wait a week or 2 so you can change it so people don't league up for this, instead of how much everything costs. So you know people actually move around and actively play the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatrobott-KT Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 i saw this coming already lol inb4 omegas/temperings are now 300 per lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magikarp-DN Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Can't wait to see the merchant prices, thanks for getting back to us quickly NCSoft. also @Gideon are the loot settings (for league drops) going to stay the same after the maintenance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmodir-DN Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 i dont care the merchant prices since we get to enjoy the eye. we can still farm. and economy is already fuked up so dont worry @Gideon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaup-KT Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 So we are basically forced to league loot or get nothing because prices will be so high after the maint?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gked Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Thank you guys. That made us feel we were heard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHarlot-DN Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Good news..Gideon..any idea what time?Please give us a 20min warning if it requires a restart so we don't lose instance cds etc... P.S. When you guys decide the new prices it would be a good idea to post them for transparency..TY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brutallus-DN Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 So uh.. What about the people who farmed all day yesterday and didn't have a chance to exchange their coins? Will they just have to exchange them when the NPC comes back with the increased prices? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paw-DN Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 So youre gonna leave the loot system as it is so people can still league up and zerg eachother/afk all day? smart dev team, a lot of people already bought the items and took advantage of the event, just don't bring the event back at all, ruining the last good pvp map Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericUser4611 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 You are LITERALLY forcing people to league up to make this event TERRIBLE SIT IN A LEAGUE FARMING CRAP. It would be SUCH a solid, adventurous, interesting, well thought out event if it was just group loot. Competition, pvp, fun, active. WHY, WHY wouldn't you just change it to how it was SUPPOSED to be and be group loot? Seriously, this is the WORST decision. @Gideon did you guys NOT read that 10k post thread where literally EVERY commenting players (which is like 100+) said they were fine with you guys changing it just dont nyerk prices just change it to group loot....like. Come on, NCSoft. Don't make crap decisions even CRAPPIER for the community. Group loot with same prices or riot, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azzmaria-KT Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Wait! are you going to disable the league loot andmake it just group loot? (this obvioulsy will lead to more competence and elitist groups taking more profit and for low geared players almost imposibile to get a fatty)? or are you going to keep the league loot but increasing the prices on merchants? (in some way i really prefer this one) or you are going to do both? group loot and higher prices so most of the players wont get a thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XYZX-DN Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 So everyone who spent there coins got all their omegas soulstones temperings +11/12s etc and everyone else gets nyerked with these probably retarded prices nice choice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmodir-DN Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 just one question: since the iron wall soulstones (as an example) are untradable will that too change price? yeah i know but it is what i really wanted to farm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirei-KT Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I'm concerned about what the new prices will look like. Forcing leagues for fatties isn't pleasant, but at the very least it will leave enough regular mobs and chests for the people who wish to farm for their stuff in another way. That said: @Cyan perhaps it is an idea to also increase the respawn rate of the regular mobs and raise the chance at which they drop protectorate coins? That way even the people who do not wish to just stay afk in leagues all day can still get a decent amount of loot from the event (with league fatties still being the superior option). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkaida-KT Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 WOW SO THE ONLY WAY TO FIX IT IS FOR US TO GET THE SAME LOOT EVERYONE ELSE DID AND INSTEAD YOU ARE GOING TO HOLD OUR LOOT AND LET THE PEOPLE WHO GOT MORE LOOT JUST KEEP THERE LOOT AND HOPE TO EXPECT THE ECONOMY TO JUST FIX ITSELF....YOU NEED TO GIVE US THE NPC WITHOUT THE EVENT THEN GIVE US THE EVENT WITHOUT THE BUGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bong-Siel Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Just now, Gaup-KT said: So we are basically forced to league loot or get nothing because prices will be so high after the maint?? ^^^^^^^^ THIS First of all, I think the main way to farm coins would have been better as quest rewards from pvp kills or something........ instead of going hardcore farming for hours. But now people are gonna go double hardcore in those fatties since prices are going to be set up higher. Disable fatties instead give us our merchants with normal prices, you guys already nyerk'd up, and it's not the players' fault, take responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paw-DN Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Imo increasing prices is fine, it was too good yes even for group farm, but I wouldn't increase the prices too much and switch loot to group instead of league.. but of course they never listen to the people that actually play and know the game.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkaida-KT Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 THE ONLY REASON IT EFFECTED THE ECONOMIC BALANCE WAS BECUASE YOU TOOK THE NPC!!!!!!!!! AND WE COULD NOT LOOT PROPERLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE COIN PRICES IN NO WAY EFFECTED THE BALANCE IF EVERYONE CAN JOIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryouken-KT Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 just change the loot to group only, but keep the prices as same... you dont have to change the prices cause "economy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaavi-DN Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I can understand that you have to fix the loot system from league to group (which in my opinion if you do that you should increase the mobs that drop the gold protectorate coins). But already modify the prices is something that you should have had in mind before the first launch of the event. And if you want to do this at least you should place temporarily the npc to exchange coins with the "original" prices, cause u eliminated the npc without any notice.... and it's not fair to people who spent a lot of time farming with the old prices in mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revendreth-DN Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, Softpaw-DN said: So youre gonna leave the loot system as it is so people can still league up and zerg eachother/afk all day? smart dev team, a lot of people already bought the items and took advantage of the event, just don't bring the event back at all, ruining the last good pvp map Yeah, better leave these guys in full master harvester keep camping fatties in group 24/7, screw the undergeared people /sarcasm Thanks for the update Gideon, just wondering, have considered to spawn more chests? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkaida-KT Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 NO THEY HAVE FIXED THE LOOT PROPERLY ALREADY THEY JUST ARE COMPLETEY STUPID AND THEY THINK THE PRICES WERE BAD AND THEY WERE NOT BAD AT ALL THEY NEED TO STOP LOOKING TO DEEP INTO IT BECUASE THE ONLY PROBLEM WAS WITH LOOT YO WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHarlot-DN Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Imo people would be raging with group loot..there aren't enough spawns in there..the coin rate would be horrible ..maybe alliance might be the best middle ground.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azzmaria-KT Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Ok. but if you increase the prices taking into consideration the fatties and leagues, will you also adjust the coins from lower mobs so they still provide enought coins to buy something for those players taht were doing something as intended in first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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