PSA: XP events and XP amulets stack multiplitively

[The Secret Cow Level]

For instance,

• +100% exp event (2x exp)
• +100% exp amulet (2x exp)

Results in 4x exp gained.

Note that exp events and amulets affects exp from monsters only! (gathering/crafting too, but their character exp is negligible)

Quest rewards are not affected by these!

 

[Arhangelos]

They do multiply each other, currently we have 2x XP week, and with the amulet it is practically 4x (2x 2x)

[GenericUser707]

You're saying until Wednesday I should be spamming Luna instances and Fissure on quadruple xp like a mad dog.

[Vantheria-DN]

Heck yeah they do. I did one run of BT (duo) and took my cleric from level 55 to level 61. Did a second run and took it to level 65. One hour of effort for 10 levels lol.

[alexddos]

I'm waiting for Triple XP + 200% XP
just like last year


https://na.aiononline.com/en/news/events/5.php 

 

[Arhangelos]

The +200% event that we get during September for the anniversary combined with a 200% XP buff that you can get from some pets or from pre-66lvl amulets would mean (3x 3x) = 9x XP.

And if you had (a huge amount of) Berdin Stars that would be another 4x on top of it, making it a total of 45x XP

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Now there is one thing I do not know. Do Berdin's lucky stars work on the basic XP before the Amulet (+100% XP) buff multiplies it, or do we get the multiplication from the amulets first and then they pass from Berdin Stars?

The XP should be the same but the way the Berdin Stars deplete would be another issue.

Example: 1 lucky star takes 8.333.333 XP from mobs and adds another 25m to it and it is totally depleted as far as I know (I am talking about 1 single Berdin Star).
Because 8.333.333XP + 3x that = 8.333.333 + 25.000.000 = 33.333.333XP total.

So lets say a mob gives 2.083.333 XP if killed without any events or buffs or amulets or stars (basic XP from the mob).
The event would double this making it: 2x 2.083.333 = 4.166.666XP which is half a Berdin Star.
If you have both Berdin Star and Berdin Amulet at that moment, which one of the two would happen (I got an answer without testing it, so I'll just mention it in the end and I rest my case in case this is not true)

Case 1: First Berdin Star applies then Berdin Amulet applies
First 4.166.666XP gets another 12,5m XP from the Berdin Star, while the Berdin Star gets depleted in half, total XP from that mob = 16.666.666XP
And then that XP is doubled by the Amulet
Total XP = 33.333.333XP.

Case 2: First Berdin Amulet applies, then Berdin Star
First 4.166.666XP gets doubled by the Berdin Amulet so it turns into 8.333.333XP
And then that XP is passed through Berdin Star and adds 25m XP, but the Berdin Star gets totally depleted.
Total XP = 33.333.333XP

...so in the above examples you would get the same amount of XP in both cases, but if the XP passes through the Star before it passes through the Amulet then you get more Star bonus since it depletes half the amount that it would deplete to the second case.

SO WHICH ONE APPLIES?

I was told by someone that you see the array of buffs and you start counting from left to right. So the first option applies which is a good thing.

Server Event Bonus -> Berdin's Star -> Amulet (or other XP buffs). That means we are lucky that our Berdin Stars don't get super fast depleted when stacked with Berdin's Amulets.

[Juice-KT]

tfw people don't know the difference between additive and multiplicative.

[Bryos-DN]

I never remember what "tfw" means. I always read it like a reverse "wtf".

[Kiatra-KT]

it is, for the dyslexic and bassackwards....

[Kiatra-KT]

humor has no wrong, just failed audiences

[Yubin-KT]

On 22/08/2017 at 10:51 AM, Alexxxx-IS said:

I'm waiting for Triple XP + 200% XP
just like last year


https://na.aiononline.com/en/news/events/5.php 

 

Cake buff does not stack with exp amulets.

On 23/08/2017 at 9:45 PM, Arxaggelos-SL said:

The +200% event that we get during September for the anniversary combined with a 200% XP buff that you can get from some pets or from pre-66lvl amulets would mean (3x 3x) = 9x XP.

And if you had (a huge amount of) Berdin Stars that would be another 4x on top of it, making it a total of 45x XP

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Now there is one thing I do not know. Do Berdin's lucky stars work on the basic XP before the Amulet (+100% XP) buff multiplies it, or do we get the multiplication from the amulets first and then they pass from Berdin Stars?

The XP should be the same but the way the Berdin Stars deplete would be another issue.

Example: 1 lucky star takes 8.333.333 XP from mobs and adds another 25m to it and it is totally depleted as far as I know (I am talking about 1 single Berdin Star).
Because 8.333.333XP + 3x that = 8.333.333 + 25.000.000 = 33.333.333XP total.

So lets say a mob gives 2.083.333 XP if killed without any events or buffs or amulets or stars (basic XP from the mob).
The event would double this making it: 2x 2.083.333 = 4.166.666XP which is half a Berdin Star.
If you have both Berdin Star and Berdin Amulet at that moment, which one of the two would happen (I got an answer without testing it, so I'll just mention it in the end and I rest my case in case this is not true)

Case 1: First Berdin Star applies then Berdin Amulet applies
First 4.166.666XP gets another 12,5m XP from the Berdin Star, while the Berdin Star gets depleted in half, total XP from that mob = 16.666.666XP
And then that XP is doubled by the Amulet
Total XP = 33.333.333XP.

Case 2: First Berdin Amulet applies, then Berdin Star
First 4.166.666XP gets doubled by the Berdin Amulet so it turns into 8.333.333XP
And then that XP is passed through Berdin Star and adds 25m XP, but the Berdin Star gets totally depleted.
Total XP = 33.333.333XP

...so in the above examples you would get the same amount of XP in both cases, but if the XP passes through the Star before it passes through the Amulet then you get more Star bonus since it depletes half the amount that it would deplete to the second case.

SO WHICH ONE APPLIES?

I was told by someone that you see the array of buffs and you start counting from left to right. So the first option applies which is a good thing.

Server Event Bonus -> Berdin's Star -> Amulet (or other XP buffs). That means we are lucky that our Berdin Stars don't get super fast depleted when stacked with Berdin's Amulets.

So much time wasted trying to calculate the exp rates ..... lol cake buff doesnt stack with exp amulets poor you , you wated so much time on your calculator

[Hiroka-DN]

On 8/27/2017 at 5:55 PM, MiniePie-SL said:

Cake buff does not stack with exp amulets.

So much time wasted trying to calculate the exp rates ..... lol cake buff doesnt stack with exp amulets poor you , you wated so much time on your calculator

While it's true cake buff and XP amulets don't stack, as they're both the "same thing," last year they had as a WORLD XP EVENT, a 3x event, and then ON TOP of that, you could acquire the anniversary cake buff, which was another 3x XP for 6 hours.

[Kidd-KT]

That weekly exp event increase the base aion exp, and then all other source of exp is multipling based on base exp.

Lets say without any event we have the base exp at 1 ( or 100% )

a mob that gives 10exp without any amulet will give 
20exp with 100% amulet
30exp with 200%amulet
So the amulets , cake buff, berdins and stuff multiplies the exp based on the base exp, but does not increase the base exp itself.
 

Now we have the weekly exp event which increase the BASE EXP by +100%. So the base was 1 and now increased by +1(100%) total of 2 ( or 200%).
So we have a new BASE EXP 2 (or 200%)
so the mob without any amulet will now give 20exp
40exp with 100% amulet
60exp with 200%amulet 

and berdins and other sources of exp will be also based on the new BASE exp.

 

So the events with that shugo icon are multipling and changing the BASE EXP to a new value, while the amulets and other sources of exp (cake,berdin) just  multiplies based on the current BASE EXP

[Sunix-DN]

omg, i can't wait for anniversary buffs. Gonna love this juicy 9x exp

[Nyali-DN]

On 8/25/2017 at 4:16 AM, Bryos-TM said:

I never remember what "tfw" means. I always read it like a reverse "wtf".

I have the same issue here! Lmao

[Azzmaria-KT]

Im not sure but i think berdin stars are not multiplicative. As far as I remember in the last aniversary we had the 9x exp from buffs but, with berdin was like +3 and not x3. so more like 12x . Still is so much if you have all the buffs.