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3 hours ago, 2s3004E2-DN said:

Right. Problem though is that some players got compensation gear while others didn't. And because of the new damage formulas and gear tiers, we get a lot of pvp that looks like this:

 

 

 

Special mention to the Call Lightnings at 7:35, 9:34, 12:01.

And dat 1v5 at the end.. 15:09 fight starts. Mostly CC locked until 30 seconds later, at 15:39, when the cleric manages to get off a boosted Splendor of Recovery. More CC lock until 16:07 when cleric Acquittals, etc.

I'm not taking anything away from Cherry here; she's a very skilled cleric. My point here is to show how much gear can matter in the current patch. The anecdotes that people are telling about players taking out full groups or even alliances by themselves ain't a lie. Gear disparity DID NOT ever look this bad. The players who think gear was this decisive in the past are delusional.

Yeah, Im also on the hate train of the exchanged gear because it was a bad idea.

But I was referkng mostly to his final words :P

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On 23/11/2018 at 6:44 AM, Kral-EK said:

Hey everyone o/ I am new to Aion and don't have your experience, but I do share a bit of the frustration from enchanting =) I've started right after the patch and regularly participate in all battlegrounds, sieges, pretty much in everything that gives enchantment stones. I grind almost every night, try to make kinah, be active, progress in the game. I even accepted the reality and payed for some "quality of life" things from the cash shop to set myself for beginning... Tonight I have failed my 8th attempt to go from +14 to +15 on my dagger. I feel bit disappointed from being stuck at the same place. Don't get me wrong, I don't expect to get my gear super fast, but one legendary item after a month of active game play would be nice. After the time I spent in, and effort I put into to the game so far, I feel unrewarded. And I just don't know how many more attempts it may take to finally get to +15, neither I do not know how long I will keep trying. 

- I understand that players from other servers got their gear as a exchange for old one. I am totally fine with that. However, I quite do not understand why these people are being matched against new players in battlegrounds. I am cool about it, but reality is that one gladiator in Idgel Dome can wipe almost entire party within a single use of his aoe skills (happened to me few days ago). My experience from battlegrounds so far? In 80% of cases my group goes afk and just wait for geared people to do their business and complete the instance. Where's the fun in that? The only time we won, for example, was when we didn't get enemy team xD. (Noobs, yea, but hey I thought that Aion needs new players^^) So this, in my opinion, even more slows down newbies who needs the enchantment to become at least a bit competitive, and gives the reward to people who already overpowers them. 

I like the game so far, but after watching a lot of videos (doing my homework on a new game) I feel like the adjustments that you are making for the West version are not really what will get you new players, or keep them interested. If the progress is this hard on Ancient - the worst - gear, I quite do not understand how we are supposed to progress, especially  when purple enchantment stones are so hard to get. 

Yeah, I guess that's it. Just a little report from a new Daeva with a bad luck o7

I totally agree with you. I do not understand why the matchmaking of instances like Idgel and Arena are so bad, this simply leaves the game totally annoying for new players as well as casual old players.

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The progress on gear is ok but the enchantment rate is ridiculously frustrating, I can't play with that anyway.

Keep trying on failing enchanting items so many times made me feel so stupid playing this game.

I am just gonna quit the game lol.

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On 11/20/2018 at 8:01 AM, Shokhan-DN said:

@Cyan @Gideon @Hime
It needs a greater availability of legendary and ultimate enchants, it can include in the box purchase of nuggets of enchants the boxes with legendary and ultimate by genesys crystal or an npc that could be changed every 3 ancient enchants by 1 legendary and every 5 legendary for 1 ultimate, the lack of this availability is discouraging the players, exchange the rewards of sieges only for ultimate stones, we want a fair and competitive game where everyone can progress to a quality end game even if it is a bit laborious, thank you to understanding and I ask you to listen to this veteran = D

So im almost in full ultimate masterwork crafted PvP gear.  The only thing i have spent money on is the prestiege pass. So i would say without a doubt,  yes it is laborious,  and we can progress evenly if the time and work is invested into the game.  obviously if more hours are invested into the game grinding for mats than others you should be far ahead of other players in gear.  but if you are sitting in ancient with 1 or 2 legendary pieces you just arnt putting in the effort that others are and you are not entitled to be as equally geared as another player who puts in more work than you.  im playing on EK.  the fresh start server.  no exchange gear given,  no free 30m kinah per gold ingot to buy up mats to craft with.  i've grinded and earned every bit of my way for my gear and im almost full Ultimate Masterwork pvp crafted.  so it can be done.  you just have to EARN it..... or spend thousands of dollars on keys for kinah bundles out of lock boxes to fund your crafting like many have already done, lol.

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Ancient until gear reaches +13, then legendary onwards

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2018.11.26 02:07:52 : You successfully enchanted Ancient Vindicator Brogans. +2 level achieved. 
2018.11.26 02:09:01 : You successfully enchanted Ancient Vindicator Brogans. +2 level achieved. 

omg I finally enchanted a piece of ancient PvP gear to +15! Only thanks to 2 +2 procs in a row

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Gwin-DN   

12 boxes <Ancient PvP Enchantment Stone Chest> = 84 Ancient Stone PVP + 48.
Total: 132 Stones Ancient PvP + 12 Stones Legendary PvP

Item <Ancient Winged> +10

Final score = <Ancient Winged> + 10

Summary: 144 stones used in a single item resulted in nothing.


I'm sorry, but this is not bad luck, this is called ... bad management.

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Enchant rate was fine till two weeks ago. They ninja nerfed this the last maintenance. The enchant rate is ridiculous now. Been failing from +1 to +2. This absurd.

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7 hours ago, Adriel-EK said:

Enchant rate was fine till two weeks ago. They ninja nerfed this the last maintenance. The enchant rate is ridiculous now. Been failing from +1 to +2. This absurd.

Enchantment rates are the same as pre-maintenance last week. You just have awful luck.

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3 hours ago, Kubei-DN said:

Enchantment rates are the same as pre-maintenance last week. You just have awful luck.

Do you really believe in Santa Claus? Do you believe they wouldn't change stuff between maintenance to force ppl to spend money ion CS or stuff?

I have 7 character lv 80. Half of them have itens +10  - 13 and all got like this before the last week maintenance. After that, things went down the drain. It is noticeable the difference in enchant rates. If you don't find this possible, well that is impressive.

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2 minutes ago, Adriel-EK said:

Do you really believe in Santa Claus? Do you believe they wouldn't change stuff between maintenance to force ppl to spend money ion CS or stuff?

I have 7 character lv 80. Half of them have itens +10  - 13 and all got like this before the last week maintenance. After that, things went down the drain. It is noticeable the difference in enchant rates. If you don't find this possible, well that is impressive.

I have many alts too. I managed to enchant my shield from +10 to +15 with just 30 stones. My legionmate got 3 items purified with just ancient stones. It's RNG, and you're just unlucky.

If you want worse enchantment rates, go EU.

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11 hours ago, Adriel-EK said:

Enchant rate was fine till two weeks ago. They ninja nerfed this the last maintenance. The enchant rate is ridiculous now. Been failing from +1 to +2. This absurd.

I failed from 0 - 1 a dozen times, no exaggeration. I just had to stare and laugh. Couldn't even be mad because it was just too ridiculous.

So I can't get any ancient armor/accessory pieces past +14, but somehow I have enchanted my ancient staff to 15, purified it, and then enchanted the legendary version to +10 with only like 2 fails. What the actual eff. I'll have an ultimate staff before I have a legendary shirt lmao. Smdh, it's outrageous.

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7 minutes ago, Vantheria-DN said:

I failed from 0 - 1 a dozen times, no exaggeration. I just had to stare and laugh. Couldn't even be mad because it was just too ridiculous.

So I can't get any ancient armor/accessory pieces past +14, but somehow I have enchanted my ancient staff to 15, purified it, and then enchanted the legendary version to +10 with only like 2 fails. What the actual eff. I'll have an ultimate staff before I have a legendary shirt lmao. Smdh, it's outrageous.

Well, according our forum mate Kubei, its just luck. I don't agree with it, but who knows. To me there is some kind of rate, algorithm, percentage of enchantments and it feels a lot different from the first weeks.

My chanter staff went from 1 to +12 without fails, week one or two of 6.2. Now, can't seem to enchant anything past +5 without tons of fails and stones wasted. Since I don't believe in luck, fate or whatever mystic stuff, I stay with rates being "adjusted" but that is me...

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6 minutes ago, Adriel-EK said:

Well, according our forum mate Kubei, its just luck. I don't agree with it, but who knows. To me there is some kind of rate, algorithm, percentage of enchantments and it feels a lot different from the first weeks.

My chanter staff went from 1 to +12 without fails, week one or two of 6.2. Now, can't seem to enchant anything past +5 without tons of fails and stones wasted. Since I don't believe in luck, fate or whatever mystic stuff, I stay with rates being "adjusted" but that is me...

Next time actually tag me with @ so I don't miss out the fancy conversations.

https://aionpowerbook.com/powerbook/6.0_Update_-_Enchanting_Rates

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3 minutes ago, Kubei-DN said:

Next time actually tag me with @ so I don't miss out the fancy conversations.

https://aionpowerbook.com/powerbook/6.0_Update_-_Enchanting_Rates

Really man, I post as I like. Not picking on you, just mentioning what you said. My opinion does not change. I don't believe on luck. After this maintenance. I'll try again and see the results.

This table % can be changed and we won't even know. This proves nothing in MY opinion.

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27 minutes ago, Adriel-EK said:

Well, according our forum mate Kubei, its just luck. I don't agree with it, but who knows. To me there is some kind of rate, algorithm, percentage of enchantments and it feels a lot different from the first weeks.

My chanter staff went from 1 to +12 without fails, week one or two of 6.2. Now, can't seem to enchant anything past +5 without tons of fails and stones wasted. Since I don't believe in luck, fate or whatever mystic stuff, I stay with rates being "adjusted" but that is me...

Well... @Kubei-DN is right... It sucks. A lot. I agree completely that it's awful. My genesis crystal legendary pvp staff is +10 by some miracle, but I don't have a single other piece of pvp gear above +11 ancient. I get wrecked in pvp usually. Again, it sucks. But it IS just rng.

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On 26/11/2018 at 1:13 AM, mooMOOMooMoomoo-KT said:

Ancient until gear reaches +13, then legendary onwards


2018.11.26 02:01:44 : You successfully enchanted Ancient Vindicator Brogans. +1 level achieved. 
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2018.11.26 02:02:26 : You successfully enchanted Ancient Vindicator Brogans. +1 level achieved. 
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2018.11.26 02:04:36 : You successfully enchanted Ancient Vindicator Brogans. +2 level achieved. 
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2018.11.26 02:06:43 : You successfully enchanted Ancient Vindicator Brogans. +2 level achieved. 
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2018.11.26 02:07:43 : You successfully enchanted Ancient Vindicator Brogans. +1 level achieved. 
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2018.11.26 02:07:52 : You successfully enchanted Ancient Vindicator Brogans. +2 level achieved. 
2018.11.26 02:09:01 : You successfully enchanted Ancient Vindicator Brogans. +2 level achieved. 

omg I finally enchanted a piece of ancient PvP gear to +15! Only thanks to 2 +2 procs in a row

This explains perfectly how broken enchantment system is. The worst part is it doesnt matter if you are using Ancient or Legendary stones. @Cyan

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Some people are thinking that they are going to "get  geared" if rates are  increased or there are bigger avaidabillity of enchants.  

The peeople who  are ahead  of you now will  be  further aheead if  rates arer increased. Is just gear inflation. 

Unless only the rates of ancient stones on ancient gear is increased, and ONLY that,  no thanks.

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5 hours ago, Matsukamy-KT said:

Some people are thinking that they are going to "get  geared" if rates are  increased or there are bigger avaidabillity of enchants.  

The peeople who  are ahead  of you now will  be  further aheead if  rates arer increased. Is just gear inflation. 

Unless only the rates of ancient stones on ancient gear is increased, and ONLY that,  no thanks.

Huh? Your post doesn't make sense. This "gear inflation" would be better for pvp balance. Everyone being in Ultimate gear would result in way fairer pvp than what we're experiencing now. Players already in Ultimate gear wouldn't see much improvement. But players who get bumped up tiers would see a massive improvement in how much damage they deal vs. how much damage they take.

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Do note it takes 46,716,655 AP to purify a full set of ancient +15 to legendary (only counting 1 weapon not taking into account of dual wields or people who want a pvp pvp combine). And about 4x that amount of AP so, 186,866,620 AP to purify a full set of legendary +15 to ultimate. Not to mention fighting spirit fragments required. Crafted ultimate is still a good placeholder against people with compensation ultimate. Having better enchantment rates alone is not going to balance pvp much if you do not have the resources to purify said gear to the next tier to start working on it. Not sure if guard farming for AP is still a thing so your basically looking at pvp instances which if you win gives 364,000 AP, if you lose, gives 182,000 AP. Not counting the AP from sieges and assuming you win all pvp instances which isn't happening. You will need 129 runs for ancient to legendary purification, 514 runs for legendary to ultimate purification. Tell me if the enchant rates aren't intended with relation to the amount of materials required and we should have increased enchant rates now. I think 5 weeks in and people should be waking up to the hard reality and sad truth that the NA population isn't as entitled as the kr population whom ncsoft pays the greatest attention to. So far what have we gotten? More kinah in kinah bundles and xform contract drops from last bosses of instances? They can't even get power shards right mind you (something that is 16,000 kinah for a 1,000 stack in kr and eu). Our reality is that we will probably only see enchant rate changes when 6.5 lands whatever forums may continue screaming at NCS. But even with enchant rate changes in 6.5 forums will still continue screaming at NCS I assure you. Because the 6.5 enchant rate changes technically only make it possible to enchant your ancient gear to +15 with ancient stones due to the 20% increase in rates on ancient gear but doesn't make it anymore easier on legendary gear with a mere 3% increase. At most for the people complaining on forums about the enchant rates now, it will be legendary gear vs ultimate gear in 6.5 compared to the present situation of ancient gear vs ultimate gear, which certainly does not even out pvp very significantly. Ultimately, if you aren't prepared or ain't got time to material grind for kinah now for legendary enchant stones via broker, you aren't going to be on an even playing field for a long long time. 

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1 hour ago, 2s3004E2-DN said:

Huh? Your post doesn't make sense. This "gear inflation" would be better for pvp balance. Everyone being in Ultimate gear would result in way fairer pvp than what we're experiencing now. Players already in Ultimate gear wouldn't see much improvement. But players who get bumped up tiers would see a massive improvement in how much damage they deal vs. how much damage they take.

Perhaps, but  this is not !Aion  so  everyone have this kind of gear on the  first month of the patch.

everybody woudlnt  be in ultimate gear  anyway, becaue you  wouldnt have  the ap and materials to get the gear, even with 100% rate.

You can be in ultimate gear though, just craft.

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