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We got still old rank list . can we not get every month new list for governor and generals. Katalam got few lazy pigs do nothing for elyos community.Only thing there gp points important.

change this aion so other ppl get change to to be better then old school today. they sleep all day or afk. make new rank system for everyone.

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Yes we already said that the ranking list is locked since the old GP acquisition was far easier and now you cannot get enough GP to progress. We hope they fix this to a monthly based rank, not a permanent one.

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Aly-DN   

So you want to take someone's GP from them why exactly? You say they are "lazy pigs" and that they "do nothing". If that were true, they wouldn't make enough GP for the month and they would fall off the rankings. So they are doing something.. they are sieging. But apparently they aren't sieging to your specifications though. And how exactly do you know that they aren't? Are you following them?

Look. It helps to have someone with banana chat to lead, but it isn't necessary. Plenty of people have been siege leaders without it.

You probably should try and relax and keep your eyes on your own paper.

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On 25/2/2019 at 5:07 AM, Aly-DN said:

So you want to take someone's GP from them why exactly? You say they are "lazy pigs" and that they "do nothing". If that were true, they wouldn't make enough GP for the month and they would fall off the rankings. So they are doing something.. they are sieging. But apparently they aren't sieging to your specifications though. And how exactly do you know that they aren't? Are you following them?

Look. It helps to have someone with banana chat to lead, but it isn't necessary. Plenty of people have been siege leaders without it.

You probably should try and relax and keep your eyes on your own paper.

Goodness lord Aly, have you played the game the last years?

People in 5.8 would afk in coalition and get a tone of GP doing nothing in sieges.
Winning in dredgion or Idgel or any other pvp instance would give you a ton of GP and even losing would give a lot by 6.2 standards.
EC was not limited to 2 entries like now, people would continuously go in to afk and didn't bother, but GP was accumulating.
PvE instances would also give GP, plenty some times and next to the GP we get now from siege, that was too much. People who did exclusively pve in pre 6.2 have gained more GP than any active player in 6.2 will ever wish for.

The problem here is that we got our kinah reduced by 2,5, we got our items rendered useless, we lost professions, maps, instances and what not, but they forgot to delete the old broken GP  ranking that was accumulated by afk means or pve means! They have changed the GP system now by making it super hard to get GP, but carried on the GP that was gotten in previous patches. Effectively old players that did enough afk or pve in the past, can be on top ranks now and don't even need to try to win a fortress at all. And of course active players of the past are also locked in high ranks.
In the early days GP was even gotten easier by turning AP to GP which is no longer available.

In 5.8 an afker could make tenths of thousands of GP per month... just by being afk.
Medium active people could get like 50k+ GP per month.
Highly active people could get a ton more GP.

Keep the GP number since they got it, but ranking should be monthly based. Lineage II, such an OLD NCSoft game, had a far better "Hero" system that was based in a monthly arena style.

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This is the suggestions section, all you do is come here and "suggest" to people stop making suggestions to make the game better.

Edited by 2s1A07B4-DN

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Aly-DN   

Lol? You loved my suggestion for ninja looters! There is a difference between not liking a suggestion and stating my reasons why and suggesting that people don't make suggestions.

Reseting GP just might be the last straw for many old players and I don't think we can afford to lose them.

I get the frustration of the OP. I have played on servers with dedicated governors and commanders and servers with absent/selfish/clueless ones. While it is much easier to siege with a leader in one of those positions, it isn't necessary. That's my point. It is very easy to get frustrated and blame "them". But those of us who have played for a long time realize that a loss is rarely the fault of one or three people.

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On 3/3/2019 at 3:52 PM, Aly-DN said:

Lol? You loved my suggestion for ninja looters! There is a difference between not liking a suggestion and stating my reasons why and suggesting that people don't make suggestions.

Reseting GP just might be the last straw for many old players and I don't think we can afford to lose them.

I get the frustration of the OP. I have played on servers with dedicated governors and commanders and servers with absent/selfish/clueless ones. While it is much easier to siege with a leader in one of those positions, it isn't necessary. That's my point. It is very easy to get frustrated and blame "them". But those of us who have played for a long time realize that a loss is rarely the fault of one or three people.

...make the ranking monthly based, do not delete GP.

Yes I liked that suggestion on the ninja looters because it was actually constructive. What you are telling here though sounds like "yes the ranking list is locked and we should all accept it".

We cannot afford to lose who? people who no longer play the game and will lose their locked status? Or the active people that will regain high ranks and have a reason to keep trying?
If there is ANY person in high ranks that will lose his rank if the GP system is fixed, then it means they never deserved to be high ranked. It is not like you will get people deleted. They will just have to fight for the rank every month or fall lower if they want to afk and not care about it.

Simple!

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Aly-DN   

But if someone is no longer playing vurrently, then they won't make the monthly minimum and they will fall of the ranks. When this patch went live, I was ranked something like 37. Since the new patch, 7 people above me have stopped playing, stopped gaining the monthly minimum and fallen off the ranks. Now I am ranked at 30. So there is movement to the rankings and players that do not play are being removed. Slowly. But they do drop off if they are not active. No matter how much GP they accumulated in past patches.

Don't forget that when the patch went live, the amount of GP you needed to keep your rank was significantly higher.. so much so that with the siege buff not working, factions who couldn't take Lakrum were in danger of losing all their transforms. The buff was fixed and that minimum GP was greatly reduced. So maybe the problem here is that with the buff fixed, we didn't need that reduction. If the minimum monthly GP amount was put back to what it was when the patch started, those who are ranked right now would have to get top GP from a -win- in order to keep their rank and you would see much more movement in the top 100. This would accomplish what you want to see without taking anything away from those current top earners. My point is that what you propose looks like on it's face taking something away from those players.. and it's that feeling that would make people quit.

Though be careful what you wish for. With your suggestion or mine, you will be encouraging selfish behavior. It's a fact that you can earn far more GP solo/duo than you can in an LFG alliance. Your top ranks are going to be focused only on getting top GP and not on taking the fort or leading anything. They are going to be solely focused on getting max GP available win or loss.

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