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I kind of refused to believe that sorc is so shitty starting from 6.2, but recently already accepted the fact and want to say 'Thanks' to NCSoft. In addition, big 'thanks' to NCWest for nerfing cast speed on transformations to make it even more and the most shittier class to play. Clap-clap.

 

 

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Sorry but you’re incorrect lol. NCsoft did slightly lower the cast times on some transformations, but more than made up for it by increasing the run speed on these transforms, which is way more important in pvp. Plus with the chanter OJ buff, it’s reduced cast times even more for pve.

 

plus if you have a gold xform, your cast speed is already higher than it was in 5.8. Max on gloves was 9%, scroll was 9% so even 18% cast speeds are better.

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39 minutes ago, Hellish-DN said:

Sorry but you’re incorrect lol. NCsoft did slightly lower the cast times on some transformations, but more than made up for it by increasing the run speed on these transforms, which is way more important in pvp. Plus with the chanter OJ buff, it’s reduced cast times even more for pve.

 

plus if you have a gold xform, your cast speed is already higher than it was in 5.8. Max on gloves was 9%, scroll was 9% so even 18% cast speeds are better.

Sin is talking about the sorc gameplay in the new patch :D:D:D 

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On 21/5/2019 at 5:29 PM, Unskilled-KT said:

I kind of refused to believe that sorc is so shitty starting from 6.2, but recently already accepted the fact and want to say 'Thanks' to NCSoft. In addition, big 'thanks' to NCWest for nerfing cast speed on transformations to make it even more and the most shittier class to play. Clap-clap.

Sorcs are walking dummies, many classes are on perma attack speed, some of them use animation hacks and we have some of the slowest casting skills in game. our sleep base c.time is so long that before you can cast it you will probably die. If anyone wants to play a nuker go with AT, gladiator, Archer or assassin, these are the real nukers in game and they are super hard to kill.

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Magi-EK   

Yeah I don't really enjoy solo pvp as a sorc, group pvp is fine. At times it does feel like anything sorc does another class could do it better but we don't have to be meta slaves, if you enjoy playing sorc that matters more for me.

Also since most of aion pvp is about gear, if you are more geared than your enemy you will destroy them easily but that's not so fun to me. 

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I dont' know, if you look at naengpa youtube channel, it seems that sorc is still pretty decent. 

They are not SMs, for sure, but still good.

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Youmu-EK   
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Templar is worst, no silence, no bind, the lowest dps, we are melee but anomos don't wanna drop red greatswords nor swords and the buffs are very nerfed.

We just have more hp and that's all.

Don't feel bad sorcerers, there are more people that know how you are and even more.

 

Edited by Youmu-EK

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lets just say this,  before if I see other class in the open map I might choose to fight,  now if I see any class I RUN!! >:(,  please tell me which class can sorc  1v1 with equal gear and win nowadays?   GG sorc.  just reroll Painter for next patch.

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catsu-KT   
3 hours ago, Pandoris-KT said:

lets just say this,  before if I see other class in the open map I might choose to fight,  now if I see any class I RUN!! >:(,  please tell me which class can sorc  1v1 with equal gear and win nowadays?   GG sorc.  just reroll Painter for next patch.

Quite a few if equal gear translates into purple xform and red weap(since they really need that cast speed).
There's no such thing as equal gear equal skill equal ping in any game, find better excuse. Sorc scales very late game and is shit w/ what you call "average" gear. Just like sin was b4 last patch.
Main issue w/ clothies is that they have to cast CC b4 they can do some dmg, have to always fear or sleep else you get slapped. In the meantime xxxgoodplayer1xxx has already CC'ed you, w/ his instant skill, at speed cap

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2 hours ago, catsu-KT said:

Quite a few if equal gear translates into purple xform and red weap(since they really need that cast speed).
There's no such thing as equal gear equal skill equal ping in any game, find better excuse. Sorc scales very late game and is shit w/ what you call "average" gear. Just like sin was b4 last patch.
Main issue w/ clothies is that they have to cast CC b4 they can do some dmg, have to always fear or sleep else you get slapped. In the meantime xxxgoodplayer1xxx has already CC'ed you, w/ his instant skill, at speed cap

I would agree with comment about sorcs really being punching bags unless they are quite geared - full legendary PVP will still result in a miserable experience.

However - Pandoris  wasn't even saying equal gear equal skill equal ping.

You simply cannot even saying "oh well all clothies must fear or cc before they can do some damage".  No - they don't. They're not even remotely on the same footing, when an SM (for example) can use physically slow anyone (without self-dispel) plus strip buffs plus silence plus bind... and almost all without cast speed. Being slowed, debuffed and having your cast/attack speed reduced is such a big impediment in itself, even if you don't throw dots- that fear is just an almost "I-win" - and of course- fear doesn't reduce your damage.

Let's compare that to a sorc- yes that can slow- not as well, but no way to reduce cast/attack speed and only silence- no bind  (yet). If they CC- extra bonus- damage is reduced. Plus very few instant  or low-cast time skills. Basically all of this to say that one mistake as a sorc usually means that you lose , and even with no mistakes you may not win since your gear has to be so good . It is not at all forgiving.

 

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catsu-KT   
5 hours ago, Rapier-DN said:

I would agree with comment about sorcs really being punching bags unless they are quite geared - full legendary PVP will still result in a miserable experience.

However - Pandoris  wasn't even saying equal gear equal skill equal ping.

You simply cannot even saying "oh well all clothies must fear or cc before they can do some damage".  No - they don't. They're not even remotely on the same footing, when an SM (for example) can use physically slow anyone (without self-dispel) plus strip buffs plus silence plus bind... and almost all without cast speed. Being slowed, debuffed and having your cast/attack speed reduced is such a big impediment in itself, even if you don't throw dots- that fear is just an almost "I-win" - and of course- fear doesn't reduce your damage.

Let's compare that to a sorc- yes that can slow- not as well, but no way to reduce cast/attack speed and only silence- no bind  (yet). If they CC- extra bonus- damage is reduced. Plus very few instant  or low-cast time skills. Basically all of this to say that one mistake as a sorc usually means that you lose , and even with no mistakes you may not win since your gear has to be so good . It is not at all forgiving.

 

You will get shit on if you aren't at least decent on sorc, you will misuse debuffs and fail to CC chain your enemy, gear w/o skill or at least decent ping wont make you any better, play ranger if you want to do that(which kinda plays out as a caster tbh, interesting game design)

The archetype remains the same. Both will CC chain you to death if you allow them to, both will die easily if you get close to them, both suffer in opposite areas. Then there's SW, which is a ??? class. What even is it good at other than being annoying and jumping around like a rabbit

Sorc has higher dmg, enough CC to chain it, more blinks, much higher skill cap(on par w/ clerics imo), is less forgiving and has shit base stats and no self baffs and has long cast times(unless you put magic rush on your skillbar, which you should).
SM has average(?) dmg, no brain CC, can make really good use of attack speed, a lot of tools to take the control over the fight and overall easier to play and easier to gear. Spirit's empowerment solves all the issues sorc has(hp, attack stats, speed).

Neither are supposed to be glass cannons, by the name of it sorc should be but it really isn't, altho it's pretty glassy. SM decreases your m.def while most(if not all) sleeps increase it, but then again that's normal, you can't move while asleep, once it breaks you are still cc'ed.

If it makes no sense just assume w/e, am too sleepy atm-_-

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BEAT-DN   

sorc was, is, will be strong class IF YOU KNOW HOW TO PLAY! 

sorc is one of hardest class to achieve highest skill on it but once you do that sorc is almost top class in food chain, you have to know all classes buff and cool time to be good at it.

watch some korean sorc play and learn. i am sorry but i havent seen any top class sorc in NA aion yet (like how they play sorc in korean server)

there are few you can ask how they play in NA aion players, i know few who is good enough to teach other sorc 

whisper me in game "BEAT"

 

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wasa-EK   

sorc is the worst class to play this patch if your goal is to win

but that's also what makes it the best class to play... because a win on sorc is a win truly earned xD

 

(edit: unless those wins on sorc are because you outgear your opponent to the point where class balance is null... which is honestly more likely bcus this game is hardcore p2w and gear > skill now more than ever before)

 

Edited by wasa-EK
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On 6/7/2019 at 3:38 AM, catsu-KT said:

You will get shit on if you aren't at least decent on sorc, you will misuse debuffs and fail to CC chain your enemy, gear w/o skill or at least decent ping wont make you any better, play ranger if you want to do that(which kinda plays out as a caster tbh, interesting game design)

The archetype remains the same. Both will CC chain you to death if you allow them to, both will die easily if you get close to them, both suffer in opposite areas. Then there's SW, which is a ??? class. What even is it good at other than being annoying and jumping around like a rabbit

Sorc has higher dmg, enough CC to chain it, more blinks, much higher skill cap(on par w/ clerics imo), is less forgiving and has shit base stats and no self baffs and has long cast times(unless you put magic rush on your skillbar, which you should).
SM has average(?) dmg, no brain CC, can make really good use of attack speed, a lot of tools to take the control over the fight and overall easier to play and easier to gear. Spirit's empowerment solves all the issues sorc has(hp, attack stats, speed).

Neither are supposed to be glass cannons, by the name of it sorc should be but it really isn't, altho it's pretty glassy. SM decreases your m.def while most(if not all) sleeps increase it, but then again that's normal, you can't move while asleep, once it breaks you are still cc'ed.

If it makes no sense just assume w/e, am too sleepy atm-_-

Both sorc and SM will slow and stun you on 25m distance. Although not instant stun, true, but they still get the upperhand 1v1 when you are not jumped. That is the truth. The only one that stuns instantly at 25m is the gunner though. Each class bring it's own challenges, but the sorc is really not the worst class. Try to be a sin and kill a glad, chanter, templar or cleric. It's like hitting a wall with your fingers. 

Sorc is really not that recommended for OW pvp if you are not quick witted(I don't know if that is an actual verb). 2 or 3 people crosses your path and you are dead. But the same is true for ranger, for example. 

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