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you guys really need to go and check the enchantment rates, i bet its broken again because i am failing soooo much with legendary stones trying to make a ancient piece of gear +15. why do you guys keep breaking stuff and not fixing it, and ignoring the players on forums but "fixing" things that arent broken?

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I agree I tried to get my Vandal Ancient jacket from +11 to +15.  This week I used all my crystals from camp quests to buy pvp stones and I made 28 legendary stones.   I used them all and ended up still with +11.   Why does a legendary stone fail Sooooooooooooooooo much on an ancient piece of gears?  You would think using a legendary stone on ancient gear would be like using an ultimate stone on legendary gear.  But as of right now it's barely better than using an ancient pvp stone on ultimate gear in 6.x.  wtf!!!!!!!!!!!  This game is getting so bad I can not believe that anyone feels that it's hardly worth the frustrations any longer.

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Enchanted a few piecees of ancient gear yesterday, and it's not broken.

Yeah, legendary fails at +13 or +14 sometimes, but it doesn't mean anything except bad luck. There are 10 topics already with this subject, just post there instead of making new ones.

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I was able to + 4 ancient pieces to 15 using ancient stones to +13 then using legendary. Only used 12 legendary stones to do it.

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4 hours ago, HeartStrings-DN said:

You would think using a legendary stone on ancient gear would be like using an ultimate stone on legendary gear.

No... learn how to enchant bro

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19 hours ago, TastyNukes-DN said:

you guys really need to go and check the enchantment rates, i bet its broken again because i am failing soooo much with legendary stones trying to make a ancient piece of gear +15. why do you guys keep breaking stuff and not fixing it, and ignoring the players on forums but "fixing" things that arent broken?

I use around 300 ancients to put 10 pieces +10 and 2 to +15, then I stopped counting. So no, I don't think its broken, its RNG, I've already failed 3 ultimates in a row (+13 up) on leg gear, but in the other hand, already put pieces to +15 without failing a single stone(+10 to +15). It's just there are more ppl enchanting now, try to enchant at a hour that there isn't many ppl online, or if its failing too much try it later, don't brute force, that will only make you spent more enchants.

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This is my own experience, I had time that I tried to bruteforce and waste a lot of resources just because I had to had it to +15 at that time. 

Maybe it's broken, maybe it's not but my enchantment experience hasn't change much since previews patch.

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All ancient stones on ancient gear

Legendary gear (ended on +13, waiting for ultimate stones):

  • ancient up to +4
  • legendary up to +10
  • ancient up to +11
  • legendary up to +13

 

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29 minutes ago, DevilNest-KT said:

No... learn how to enchant bro

Well let's hear it?   Ancient stones to +10,  Legendary stones to +13 and Ultimate to +15 on a piece of Ancient gear? wow nothing you can learn or teach about stones that fail so often with sucky RNG.  It simply just sucks

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2 hours ago, HeartStrings-DN said:

 wow nothing you can learn or teach about stones

Well if you don't want to learn, go a head keep crying in the forums xD

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Well, seriously, I don't know why they put the enchant rate like this, it's super low compared before 6.0, and in the same time, they make it so hard to grind or farm these enchant stone as well, make it even harder to gear up. People playing this game not for grinding exp or others, people want to join pvp or even pvp instance, while you can't even get the top gear in like a whole path or a year maybe??? Or this game just for those p2w players only?

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Lapis-DN   
1 hour ago, DevilNest-KT said:

Well if you don't want to learn, go a head keep crying in the forums xD

why don't you teach us?

 

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2 hours ago, Lapis-DN said:

why don't you teach us?

 

Ancient Gear:

Go full ancient stones till +14, (or +13 if u have bad rng)

use legendary to +15.

 

Legendary Gear: 

Go full ancient stones till +6,

legendary stones till +10,

ancient stones to +11,

Legendary stones till +13,

ultimate stones for +14 & +15

 

Ultimate Gear: 

Go full ancient stones till +5,

legendary stones till +10,

ancient stones to +11,

Legendary stones till +13,

ultimate stones for +14 & +15

 

Maybe i will make some videos enchanting tonight

Edited by DevilNest-KT

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Cyan   

We've checked the enchantment rates and have verified they weren't reverted nor are they incorrect. To be double sure we've verified for both PvE and PvP, and checked against logs from both servers.

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A lot of legion mates have been complaining about the rates since this patch launched, I haven't noticed anything too different though.

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4 hours ago, DevilNest-KT said:

Well if you don't want to learn, go a head keep crying in the forums xD

Well teach us so we don't have to suffer such great misery!  Nothing worse than spending many days making a batch of legendary or ultimate stones to watch them just get destroyed and legendary stones dropping you from +14 back down to 10.  SO the solution is don't use Legendary stones on ancient gear after +13 they are not good enough and fail to much.  save them and make ultimate stones so when they fail they just don't drop back down to +10... Just seems such over kill to have players having to morph all the way up to ultimate to get a piece of crappy ancient gear to +15.  The whole process is just a huge waste of time if you ask me

3 hours ago, DevilNest-KT said:

Ancient Gear:

Go full ancient stones till +14, (or +13 if u have bad rng)

use legendary to +15.

 

Legendary Gear: 

Go full ancient stones till +6,

legendary stones till +10,

ancient stones to +11,

Legendary stones till +13,

ultimate stones for +14 & +15

 

Ultimate Gear: 

Go full ancient stones till +5,

legendary stones till +10,

ancient stones to +11,

Legendary stones till +13,

ultimate stones for +14 & +15

 

Maybe i will make some videos enchanting tonight

This is no good doesn't work well on T2 gear at all.

Ancient Gear:

Go full ancient stones till +14, (or +13 if u have bad rng)

use legendary to +15.

 

I failed 28 Legendary stones on ancient gear trying to go from +11 and still ended up at +11.    Now it probably should be

Ancient Gear:

Go ful ancient stones till +11  
Use Legendary to +14 (if you ever get to +14)
Use Ultimate to +15 (cuz if your lucky enough to get to +14 don't ever risk another on a cheap legendary stone that fails badly even on ancient gear)

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3 hours ago, Cyan said:

We've checked the enchantment rates and have verified they weren't reverted nor are they incorrect. To be double sure we've verified for both PvE and PvP, and checked against logs from both servers.

Good to know that they are correct and that it's expected that likely 28 legendary stones are not going to get your +11 Ancient gear to +15 (as in my case).  Knowing that this pain is real and intentional by NCSoft  :-)  I'm quickly learning these days just how much of a waste of my time playing this game has actually become now.  Thanks!   I wont even ask you to make it better since this is just how you all like it.

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There is no way this is just rng, I have managed to make my ultimate T2 weapon +10 and ever since every legendary enchant stones simply fails, i never got to make my weapon +11 at all! There is no way I can fail 10 legendary enchant stones on a +10 ultimate weapon when the success rate is supposed to be 42%

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What I don't get is there isn't even a clear pay to win option for fixing the enchantments. Once upon a time there were 100% supplements for manastones.

I think the solution is to either get rid of the failure causing fallback to +10 (make it just drop 1 level) or re-enable the trading of enchant stones back to how they use to be before 6.0 so we can stock up to compensate for the absurd failure rate. Or, a 3rd. option if NCSoft insist on enchantment stones being untradable, they could lower the requirement for promoting PvP gear from +15 to +10.

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i have used over 90 ancient stones on a legendary piece to go from +0 to +0, it never goes over +1 hahahaha

8 minutes ago, Cyfur-EK said:

What I don't get is there isn't even a clear pay to win option for fixing the enchantments. Once upon a time there were 100% supplements for manastones.

I think the solution is to either get rid of the failure causing fallback to +10 (make it just drop 1 level) or re-enable the trading of enchant stones back to how they use to be before 6.0 so we can stock up to compensate for the absurd failure rate. Or, a 3rd. option if NCSoft insist on enchantment stones being untradable, they could lower the requirement for promoting PvP gear from +15 to +10.

thats Blasphemy!  how can you suggest such heresy to Ncsoft, go and repent!

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4 hours ago, HeartStrings-DN said:

 

This is no good doesn't work well on T2 gear at all.
 

 

i think it works pretty well...

 

Note:  use your own background music xD 

 

just as i said before only used used 218 ancient and 7 legendary stones to enchant 3 pieces

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On 9/5/2019 at 8:40 PM, DevilNest-KT said:

 

i think it works pretty well...

 

Note:  use your own background music xD 

 

just as i said before only used used 218 ancient and 7 legendary stones to enchant 3 pieces

I'm sorry I doubted you dude you were right!  Getting ancient to +14 using ancient stones even though a lot of failure and then using legendary stone to +15 works much better and uses less stones total in the end.  Thank you for sharing this.   My bad

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