Neleth-KT Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 I misunderstand Aion is meant about long term goal but no that's wrong.Aion meant everyone max geared equally +15 stigma +15 daevanion skills and go out pvp and have good time.It never meant some p2w godly gears killing rank 1 in 1-2 shots,it never meant for someone to farm in instances 6 months and not fully gears.Aion is designed with Korean shop and events in mild it meant to have 2-3 events every week.Transformation Contacts,Enchantment Stones,Stigma,Daevanion Skills suppose to rain down so everyone get +15 Not like NA where we have an event for 2 weeks then no event for another 2 weeks with bad rewards and the worst shop in all regions. We're playing Aion not meant for farming but actually to have fun. Give us Korean shop and events as the game was designed with from beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safeword-KT Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 I agree with you. But: If a few people spend a ton of money getting max gear, and then a few angry rank 1s spend lots of money to catch up, that is much better than anyone having fun. If you're NC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ereliya-KT Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Regardless of events in korea you have to spend money there are no f2p players in korea not one that truly play the game daily. +15 stigma is 55 USD each in korea +15 daevanskill 100 USD each. Getting legendary and ultimate transforms is gonna be another huge cost. In reality if you saw the accounts with 15 stigmas 15 daeva and let's say kaisinel. The gear on this account will only be legendary at best. They go for min 2.5k to 6k in korea depending on what class. It's clear you don't play in korea if we had what korea had it would kill every f2p player in NA and people would cry even more than they are now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matsukamy-KT Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 If you watch Korean streams it consists of a few dudes 2 shoting people left and right, arenas are the only place where you can watch some interesting fights. Here is not so bad for the f2p, but also people here usually dont have the basic knowledge of the game and what is about, and in general why its bad here. You know, I think the real problem is that they destryed the low lv game and all the low lv fun we could have outside of end game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arhangelos Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 T2+15 ultimate is doable by anyone who simply plays the game. And as for +15 stigmas unless we get a safe enchant AND increased enchant rates like EU got, we won't see it anytime soon. Any stigma past +9 has 20% chance to succeed... that is insanely low. The EU event increased the 20% to 30%. I am currently 100% f2p, not even prestige and I am miss like 4~5 items for T2+15 ultimate and I do not even do sieges, so I miss a ton of rewards from there. -- If you have 12 chars in your account and do luna daily on all of them you can craft 240 lunas per day... that is +4 entry resets for any instance you want, per day! So you can do 1 free+4 ID in one day, then 1 free+4 AD another day or do IB (which doesn't worth it), EC is closed so those extra entries can be used in other PvP instances. All the above instances give you enchants, AP, ultimate & legendary etiums, and some give spirit fragments as well. All the above explained is 100% free to play with just an extra effort to do 12 luna dailies (which can either be done in about 1,5~2 hours actively or about 4 hours in total by afking each char and coming back like 15~20 minutes later to kill the cores and put the next char). -- As for stigmas, the chance is the only enemy, I doubt any amount of money can do someone +15 due to the Aion RNG. Every character at the level 10 and above can get 20 gold ingots in 4 days and get 2 stigma enchant stones. Since stigmas are tradeable you can simply hand your stigmas to them to be enchanted. For 13m per stigma enchant stone, it doesn't seem like a huge price, so practically whoever makes money in game (with kinah boxes from luna for example) can have a huge amount of those, you do not need to pay with real money to actually enchant. -- For additional enchants you can do the weeklies and urgent orders for genesis crystals and simply get a ton of ancient enchant stones and upgrade them the the bobonerk's gems or with stellium. All of that is simply doable, nothing p2w here. Yes it takes time but this is what a f2p game does, Aion was always taking time to progress otherwise it was going to be like shooter games that you start on 0 in every game and after 10~5 minutes you win. It is an mmorpg and you work to build your character. ######################### If you can't do 12 lunas per day, and if you can't reset instances, and if you can't do XP to get bobnerk's gems... then the problem is not the game, but the fact you can't play it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squid Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 6 hours ago, Arhangelos-KT said: If you can't do 12 lunas per day, and if you can't reset instances, and if you can't do XP to get bobnerk's gems... then the problem is not the game, but the fact you can't play it. Imagine having to do 12 luna's daily to be able to play the game...LOL. The way you are speaking sounds like you are still working off the coat tails of 5.X materials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ereliya-KT Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 No Arhangelos is 100% correct if you are not doing everything you can to make progression in the game then you have no one to blame but yourself. I tell people all the time as I am also a f2p player here on NA since I spend my money on my KR account. If someone buys a ton of tickets for the lottery or a raffle and you only use the one raffle ticket you get for free you cant be mad when the person who spends more wins. I am currently moving so I dont get to play much so I take all my time to run lunas on all my toons and thats all I do, but when I was playing hardcore 5-8hrs a day. I ran 12 lunas a day, ran every pve instance on my 4 main toons I enjoy, then my main I did all 4 100x repeat demaha stellium quests, did altar quests, attended every altar and siege, ran all pvp instances, then reset pve and pvp instances for whatever I wanted to make progress on and still managed to grind for crafting mats. I get not everyone has 6hrs a day to play but that means you have to schedule out your time like I do now to make progress. OR you pay money to make up for the progress you aren't making. Players need to stop crying about others because they are too lazy to put in hard work for a rpg or pay for the other way to increase progression. just busting my ass like this I have 1 full +15 t2 pvp set 1 +15 t2 pve set then an extra t2 pve set and 2 t1 ulti +15 pvp sets and hopefully by the end of the event I will have 2 ulti t2 pvp sets. without spending a dime just hard work grinding nonstop. the game is pay for convenience but because its takes full time dedication you HAVE TO PAY if you cant put in the time and want to be the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ereliya-KT Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Just and fyi in KR I attend siege and do altars and quests I cant even become a 1 star in Korea they are much more competitive and if you don't pay there you will always be nothing. Its a different animal than NA. It doesn't mean you cant play the game, but if you want to pvp with the best there, if you're f2p you are dreaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squid Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, Ereliya-KT said: Just and fyi in KR I attend siege and do altars and quests I cant even become a 1 star in Korea they are much more competitive and if you don't pay there you will always be nothing. Its a different animal than NA. It doesn't mean you cant play the game, but if you want to pvp with the best there, if you're f2p you are dreaming KR siege stones are sell-able for kinah tho no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arhangelos Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 13 hours ago, HealingSquid-KT said: Imagine having to do 12 luna's daily to be able to play the game...LOL. The way you are speaking sounds like you are still working off the coat tails of 5.X materials. It takes me less than 2 hours per day because all my alts have 5.8 weapons with godstones imbued and they seem to do insane dmg in 6.+ (they are the unbreakable version). Spending less than 2 hour so you can do free of charge resets is not a big deal. And then I have a static for ID and AD. You do not have to do the 12 lunas and "wast" 2 hours, but you can purchase the lunas instead. This is what a f2p game offers. Back in 5.8 to be lvl 75 you had to burn yourself. Aion was never easy, I am not sure why people are complaining about thigns that are doable. Imagine having to do the weekly stellium quests that are 4 of them 100x repeats, that is not just 2 hours per day. Going to every siege is by far more time consuming. Doing 4x pf +1 IDD +4 stellin easy +4 stellin normal, 4x FM etc takes more time too 4x BoS... all these take far more time. I do none of the above, no pf, no IDD, no stellin normal/easy, no sieges because I am not very active but I do take the time to put one char after another in semi-afk and some times play a little when I listen to music. Think about it, I am not active yet I am almost full T2+15 ultimate. If you want to be full T2+15 ultimate by playing 1 hour per day forget it. If gear is the problem I do not see how anyone cannot do it, sure thing RNG is nerve breaking, one time I broke 9 ultimate pvp enchants on a +14 necklace to get it to +15 and it sucked. But the game offers you everything you need to do everything 100% free of charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Safeword-KT Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 On 2019-11-09 at 2:02 AM, Arhangelos-KT said: If you can't do 12 lunas per day, and if you can't reset instances, and if you can't do XP to get bobnerk's gems... then the problem is not the game, but the fact you can't play it. Most of the things you mentioned aren't actually playing your character tho. they're getting ready to play your character. just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arhangelos Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 17 hours ago, 1s8B7B8-KT said: Most of the things you mentioned aren't actually playing your character tho. they're getting ready to play your character. just sayin'. Only the 12 char luna is this, but if you can't work yourself for 2 hours to get your free entries then you can always buy them. It is still you playing the game and that instance is dead easy and simple. Resetting instances with the luna you have now is done by your main character and doing XP to burn it in bobonerk's gems is also your own character. My post talks about ho a totally f2p player can literally do it all super fast and super simple without a single dime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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