I have a question for the super ultimate geared sorcerers...

[CaIcifer-KT]

I keep hearing mixed opinions on the sorc class. On one hand, people say that the sorc class is useless... and on the other, people say that as long as your geared and have skill, u can kill any player of any class.

As a super geared sorc, what is your opinion about your class? Do you still struggle in pvp? and only manage to kill undergeared people? what changes would you like to see happen to the sorc class?

EDIT: you don't have to be a geared sorc to state your opinion on the sorc class. I just kinda feel like someone has to make a post about this, because I feel like the sorc class is being left behind while the other classes are getting buffed. 

[GenericUser34531]

La verdad que es una clase buena pero no es la más fácil de usar, así que si te equivocas por manco te vas a comer algo grande.

Sí que le bufearon bien. Ahora tiene bind y unos golpes pegan más que antes.

Tiene muchas desventajas como counters bien fijos: el robot por ejemplo. Si alguien dice "Location un robot matando gente, ayuda", así tengas equipo, lo mejor sería mantenerse a menos que ese sea un super manco.

Si lo que más te gusta es ganar y ser el más op, lo mejor que puedes hacer es cambiarte de clase. Si lo que más te gusta es tener una dificultad algo elevada y, por lo tanto, una satisfacción mayor al ganarle a uno con más equipo y una clase más fácil, quedate con esa clase es una buena decisión.

Si quieres ver como es el mago con igual equipo puedes bajar el aion de gameforge y meterte a notaion donde empiezas con el set noble gilded rojo +15. Si quieres alguien con quien practicar me llamas y dueleamos un rato que ahí tengo las 11 clases.

[Arhangelos]

On 11/20/2019 at 9:51 PM, CaIcifer-DN said:

I keep hearing mixed opinions on the sorc class. On one hand, people say that the sorc class is useless... and on the other, people say that as long as your geared and have skill, u can kill any player of any class.

As a super geared sorc, what is your opinion about your class? Do you still struggle in pvp? and only manage to kill undergeared people? what changes would you like to see happen to the sorc class?

EDIT: you don't have to be a geared sorc to state your opinion on the sorc class. I just kinda feel like someone has to make a post about this, because I feel like the sorc class is being left behind while the other classes are getting buffed. 

Right now at 7.0, every class is a dps class and this is our problem.

When a cleric can dps you pretty hard BUT he can also full heal himself... he is a sorcerer with heals, you are a sorcerer without heals. Same to SongWeavers. Spirit masters are what they have always been, fear and debuff gods with plenty of direct dps. Gladiators are tanks+ sorcerers, Templars are tanks+ sorcerers, AT are tank+sorcerers. Sins and Archers have always been pvp classes and especially anti-sorc. Gunners are still jumping/running sorcerers with plenty of survivability and offensive tactics. Last but not least Vandal is sorcerer+sorcerer in one character.

Our main problem will always be that our class is the class with no survivability at all, hey have upgraded the shield of every class except ours (it still defends you for 3,5k dps literally), we are no longer regarded a dps class also, we are not an offensive class by any definition as a gladiator, a sin, an archer, an AT, a vandal, a gunner are either higher dps than us or pretty close.

Our class was relevant back when nobody was running at full attack speed, we need both attack speed and casting speed which is ridiculous. An assassin/AT/Archer can reach max attack speed with just an ancient transform, we can reach max casting speed with a legendary but we will need kaisinel for the attack speed! Plenty classes can resist sleeps or silences, but most classes do have silence and it is instant while we need to cast it etc.

We are good enough in massive pvp like a siege or EC (rip) that we can hide in the crowd. Inside ID/AD though we get jumped first, we die in less than 1 second if 2 people jump on us and clerics can't keep us alive. Sleep is one of the most useless skills except if you are into a strict 1v1 so you can do tactical sleeps.

They simply forgot to upgrade our class when they kept upgrading every other class. Long casting skills, outdated survivability, weakest self-healing/draining capabilities, least HP, least p.defense, the flimsiest class with the most weaknesses and you can check this in the arena rankings and the GP ranks. I did use to be a governor for 2 months when I cared, but I no longer care to go to sieges just so i can be on top 5 in ranks while I play a ridiculous class in the field.

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Either reroll a Vandal or if you are like me that you won't jump into the retarded-op class just learn to refrain from open world pvp especially in solo mode.

[GenericUser7527]

Yeah I've heard the 'mixed' opinions about sorc too. It's always somebody who mains sorc and actually understands the class or has valid criticism vs some idiot saying "git gud rubbish", "sorc strong and op", "can win anyone" LOL what a joke. 

Earlier while surfing through some sorc pvp videos I came across the best, most blunt yet accurate comment chain I have seen about sorc in a while from this video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s5leFVNhxQ

"you play like a clown and thats the reason why you lost and think sorc is strong" ...savage af but true

 

In all seriousness, sorc is a class scaled for very, very late-game. By that I mean it becomes more and more viable when you get max gear/stigmas/daeva skill enchants and kaisinel transform and if the player has immense game knowledge about every class, low ping, high skill, fast aion reactions, makes zero or almost no mistakes, 200 IQ, physics PhD etc etc. Sweaty tryhard class. PvPing on sorc this patch is a horrible experience if you're just playing casually and you're undergeared. Scratch that, it's just a horrible experience in general. Any mouse clicking 200-ping 0 knowledge/skill/reaction SM or painter is more useful than you. Countless hours of practice, experience and learning just to get 3 shot by some random mouse clicking painter who made their character 1 month ago just LMAO @ Aion's current balance. 

There's a lot more sorc criticism in this thread:

And I go into more detail about what makes sorc bad in this post:

Although those threads/posts are from months ago not much has changed for sorc this patch. It's still pretty much the same.

 

That being said, IMO it's pretty lame to force yourself to be a metaslave. Aion isn't even worth taking seriously anymore. The days of tryharding this game are over. It's dead af, the overall Aion meta became retarded after 6.x and the devs killed the game's skillful gameplay by making every class easier to play. So just play what you enjoy. Personally I still enjoy sorc. It's actually challenging as opposed to pretty much every other class these days. I will admit though that I often feel like I made the wrong choice rerolling to this class especially the few times I even bother to do arenas. But what makes sorc so bad is part of why it's my favorite class in the game now. It's one of the few classes I even enjoy watching others' gameplay on because as a sorc you have to actually outplay your opponents well to win. The difference between a good sorc and a bad sorc is night and day. For the majority of the other classes in the game the difference between a good and bad ____ is nonexistent. 

[Arhangelos]

In short we are a class that takes time to kill someone and dies within seconds.

Also the fact people keep saying "sorc is good in the right hands" is the actual proof. If we need to be the most insane pvpers to win while playing a sorc, then duh, someone with 80 IQ playing a vandal can beat the majority of enemies.