Vankre Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 I dont agree with this model. I did pay the subscription already and i can easily afford it but i think the "free trial" should be removed and make it purchase to play. In the korean version there's a kind of "Monthly Season Pass" (which requires EXTRA payment) where you can get controversial items such as multiple Major Ancient Crowns which give tons of AP Tell me if this isnt pay to win, also most of these items are sellabe If you really believe this is not going p2w and ncsoft will take care of thousands of bots joining in... I dunno. Plus Lost Ark, and Elyon are coming with new content and FREE Greetings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubei-DN Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Vankre said: I dont agree with this model. I did pay the subscription already and i can easily afford it but i think the "free trial" should be removed and make it purchase to play. In the korean version there's a kind of "Monthly Season Pass" (which requires EXTRA payment) where you can get controversial items such as multiple Major Ancient Crowns which give tons of AP Tell me if this isnt pay to win, also most of these items are sellabe If you really believe this is not going p2w and ncsoft will take care of thousands of bots joining in... I dunno. Plus Lost Ark, and Elyon are coming with new content and FREE Greetings You mean buy to play? Alright, I'll tell you something about that model as well. BDO is b2p, and has an intense grind there. Sounds very fun, huh. ELYON will be b2p and there's tons of RNG and room for p2w in it already. You hit level 21, you're already welcome with RNG boxes. I played the beta btw. Korea addressed the issue of the Ancient Crowns in the Daeva pass and removed it, which is why our version will not include it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest some old chanter Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 they should make one server f2p/p2w with all the bells and whistles. then make the other subscription only. Let people vote with their wallets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coheed Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Guest some old chanter said: they should make one server f2p/p2w with all the bells and whistles. then make the other subscription only. Let people vote with their wallets. wtf why? Go play the current version if that's what you want. Aion Classic P2P %100!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5s16519C Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 14 hours ago, Kubei-DN said: You mean buy to play? Alright, I'll tell you something about that model as well. BDO is b2p, and has an intense grind there. Sounds very fun, huh. ELYON will be b2p and there's tons of RNG and room for p2w in it already. You hit level 21, you're already welcome with RNG boxes. I played the beta btw. Korea addressed the issue of the Ancient Crowns in the Daeva pass and removed it, which is why our version will not include it. Anecdotally, I really love the BDO grind. I play for 15+ hours a day currently, but that's part of why I think I need a break and want to return to Aion. BDO is a beautiful game with perhaps more content than any MMO I've seen to date, excellent graphics and fresh combat. I have no complaints EXCEPT that the buy-to-play method means there's a still a fair number of bots and degenerates playing the game. 17 minutes ago, Guest some old chanter said: they should make one server f2p/p2w with all the bells and whistles. then make the other subscription only. Let people vote with their wallets. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5s17B0E7 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 I like the business model. It helps all 3 types of players. Free players get to play for free 1 hour a day. People who want the subscription get to pay their $15/month. People like me (p2w) players get to make a lot of accounts and pay for the daeva pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lollichop Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Aion was at it's finest when it was sub based, wonderful players, intense PvP and always fun even the griefers were of high quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BDOaModelCITIZEN Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 I can only hope that classic Aion is being modeled after BDO because that game is amazing. Mixing classic aion with BDOs marketing model would be so convenient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nexus Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 On 6/21/2021 at 1:22 AM, Vankre said: I dont agree with this model. I did pay the subscription already and i can easily afford it but i think the "free trial" should be removed and make it purchase to play. In the korean version there's a kind of "Monthly Season Pass" (which requires EXTRA payment) where you can get controversial items such as multiple Major Ancient Crowns which give tons of AP Tell me if this isnt pay to win, also most of these items are sellabe If you really believe this is not going p2w and ncsoft will take care of thousands of bots joining in... I dunno. Plus Lost Ark, and Elyon are coming with new content and FREE Greetings More crying about the business model? Yay. Don't like it? No one is forcing you to play! Most of these games you've list already have expensive "founder's packs" and p2w cash shops, so lel. And btw, you probably don't realise this but AP doesn't mean anything. You kinda need hundreds of silver/ gold medals, before you can actually buy anything good... I don't know, like gear and weapons! It's not hard to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rastekkel Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Sub and a shop with cosmetics only (no scrolls/consumes/titles/candy's) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wootage-KT Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Rastekkel said: Sub and a shop with cosmetics only (no scrolls/consumes/titles/candy's) i think they will have titles and xb boosts / teas also in shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest66 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 On 6/9/2021 at 3:03 PM, Laucha said: For latinos its very costy.. like we have to work for a week to pay 1 month, 1 month to pay 3 month, that is sh*t that's exactly why subscription exist, to keep you at bay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rastekkel Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 23 minutes ago, Wootage-KT said: i think they will have titles and xb boosts / teas also in shop As much as I don't like skipping the levelling part of an MMO. I don't have many problems with it. I'm more worried that they will flood the playerbase with consumes/scrolls/enchant stones through the season pass and thus hurting the games economy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5s16519C Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, Rastekkel said: As much as I don't like skipping the levelling part of an MMO. I don't have many problems with it. I'm more worried that they will flood the playerbase with consumes/scrolls/enchant stones through the season pass and thus hurting the games economy. This, coupled with the abundance of AP items, mirrors my concerns. The more stuff like this that's fed into the playerbase, the faster progression happens and the faster the divide between those who can pay, and those who cannot. That divide will eventually cleave off those at the bottom. I'd rather do away with it all entirely. I don't want that kinda free stuff. Give me dumb stuff instead, or basic consumables like potions and scrolls. Don't get me wrong, I want AP, but not like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HypedbutFearful Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, Rastekkel said: As much as I don't like skipping the levelling part of an MMO. I don't have many problems with it. I'm more worried that they will flood the playerbase with consumes/scrolls/enchant stones through the season pass and thus hurting the games economy. Seems like it absolutely will, I was thinking of levelling alchemy for example and I can already see that consumables won’t be worth much. I don’t mind paying the subscription at all, I actually think it’ll be good for the game and for Ncsoft, but adding a pass on top of that with rewards such as consumables, hundreds of coins and even AP? That will absolutely ruin the game and makes it even harder to attract more people to play the game. I can convince my friends to pay a subscription, but paying even more on top of that for a 10 year old game else they would be at a disadvantage is too much and they either wont join me or quit soon after. (I’d be fine with it if it was only cosmetics or exp boosts) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wootage-KT Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 listen i hope the even do twitch drops like maybe some potions , few scrolls and even 100k kinah like small stuff but enough to make people watch, stream and pull aion on higher row on twitch so more people will discover it and maybe even decide to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubei-DN Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Okay, so I went to the Korean webshop on their website and see what they have to sell: - There's some sort of "event" where they sell a 30 day 16-bag pet (it's a small crab like pet). Seems to be 1 per character per account. It also specifies that if you have a different 16-bag pet, and you purchase this one, both share the same storage. - 200 Quna that comes along with 1 Administrator's boon - 400 Quna with 2 Administrator's boons - 1320 Quna with 6 boons - 2300 Quna with 15 boons - 4320 Quna with 25 boons - [Event] 10 Resurrection stones (the blue ones that allow you to res others) - [Event] 10,000 Stigma Shards - [Event] Hair dye package -- this gives you 1 out of 8 possible hair dyes, which stay with the tag [Event] That's all there is on the website. There's no way for me to see what's inside Quna shop unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unskilled-KT Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 You boost your Daeva pass with Quna on different chars to get perks (ench stones, manastones, AP) entry p2w items. Wonder if those are untradeable by any chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Angel Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 11 hours ago, Guest Guest66 said: that's exactly why subscription exist, to keep you at bay Does it bother you to see Latino players in the game?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest st0n3 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 7 hours ago, Unskilled-KT said: You boost your Daeva pass with Quna on different chars to get perks (ench stones, manastones, AP) entry p2w items. Wonder if those are untradeable by any chance. some1 above asked about bdo model. that's exatly the one. u can p2w with no issues besides the price being extremely high. some still do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Secret Cow Level Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 STR_CLASSIC_ACCOUNT_MEMBERSHIP Aion Classic - Standard STR_CLASSIC_ACCOUNT_PCROOM Aion Classic - PC Café Access STR_CLASSIC_ACCOUNT_TRIAL Aion Classic - Trial STR_CLASSIC_ACCOUNT_TRIAL_FATIGUE Aion Classic - Trial STR_CLASSIC_ACCOUNT_MEMBERSHIP_REMAIN Siel's Aura STR_CLASSIC_ACCOUNT_TRIAL_REMAIN Siel's Aura (Trial) STR_CLASSIC_ACCOUNT_MEMBERSHIP_EFFECT STR_CLASSIC_ACCOUNT_PCROOM_EFFECT STR_CLASSIC_ACCOUNT_TRIAL_EFFECT XP Gain: 100% Item Drops: No limit Kinah Drops: Available Abyss Point Acquisition: Available Gathering: Available Crafting: Available Private Store: Available Full Quest Rewards: Yes Relic Exchange: Available STR_CLASSIC_ACCOUNT_TRIAL_FATIGUE_EFFECT XP Gain: 50% Item Drops: Superior or lower Kinah Drops: Unavailable Abyss Point Acquisition: Unavailable Gathering: Unavailable Crafting: Available Private Store: Unavailable Quest Rewards gain: No AP Relic Exchange: Unavailable STR_CLASSIC_ACCOUNT_MEMBERSHIP_EFFECT_TOOLTIP State: ON XP Gain: 100% Item Drops: No limit Kinah Drops: Available Abyss Point Acquisition: Available Gathering: Available Crafting: Available Private Store: Available Full Quest Rewards: Yes Relic Exchange: Available STR_CLASSIC_ACCOUNT_PCROOM_EFFECT_TOOLTIP State: ON (PC Café) XP Gain: 100% Item Drops: No limi Kinah Drops: Available Abyss Point Acquisition: Available Gathering: Available Crafting: Available Private Store: Available Full Quest Rewards: Yes Relic Exchange: Available STR_CLASSIC_ACCOUNT_TRIAL_EFFECT_TOOLTIP State: ON (Trial) XP Gain: 100% Item Drops: No limit Kinah Drops: Available Abyss Point Acquisition: Available Gathering: Available Crafting: Available Private Store: Available Full Quest Rewards: Yes Relic Exchange: Available STR_CLASSIC_ACCOUNT_TRIAL_FATIGUE_EFFECT_TOOLTIP State: OFF (Trial) XP Gain: 50% Item Drops: Superior or lower Kinah Drops: Unavailable Abyss Point Acquisition: Unavailable Gathering: Unavailable Crafting: Available Private Store: Unavailable Quest Rewards: No AP Relic Exchange: Unavailable STR_MSG_ALARM_CLASSIC_ACCUONT_TRIAL_REJECT_QUEST_RELICS Siel's Aura is required to exchange Relics. STR_S2_Pass_Daily_02_DESC STR_S3_Pass_Daily_02_DESC You cannot earn Abyss Points when Siel’s Energy is off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sakarr Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 When it says "Field Gameplay Item Acquisition - Common only" for free accounts, does that include instances? Such as, they can't loot any Superior, Heroic, Fabled items from instance bosses outside of their 1st hour of gameplay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceAge Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 This thread didn't aged well, lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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