Boober
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3 minutes ago, Stormwing said:
@Boober:
I see. Silly me like usual
XD It got me at first as well don't worry hehe.
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2 minutes ago, Stormwing said:
@Boober:
According to the pictures, those are level 50.You are reading it incorrectly. Only the top line under world next to 'lvl 50's' are the 50's, underneath is a breakup of every class online at the time of siege and the bottom line is the total online population.
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6 minutes ago, Stormwing said:
@Boober:
Would you mind pointing out that image, since I am apparently too stupid to find it. Also taking one picture of those many ones does hardly prove a general point. Here is a list of the data provided by the pictures from Forthyn - Asmodaes Pea-k descending by date of post including page four.Asmodians level 50 (world) / Elyos level 50 (world)
- 1240 / 1182 (-58)
- 1112 / 1163 (+51)
- 1157 / 1190 (+33)
- 1133 / Corrupted
- 1074 / 1113 (+39)
- 1067 / 1200 (+133)
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Found your example. The asmodian number you quoted was wrong. Yet MXJ point was about the world numbers and Elyos just being too lazy to attend siege.Those are total numbers, not 50's.
All I said was that the 50's make the difference and are a better indication. Again, not trying to argue that most issues aren't born out of laziness/giving up on the Elyos side.
Have a good one.
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39 minutes ago, Stormwing said:
@Boober:
I did not read significantly anywhere, yet the technical statement from MXJ, that level 50 Elyos are not really lower in numbers than Asmodians on Siels is correct, judging from the screenshots alone. Unless I am interpreting those pictures wrongly.Yeh, I edited that immediately, well before your post, but thank you.
Literally the last post by Forth shows 416 asmo 50's compared to 306 Elyos 50s. Not trying to argue that a lot of the issues aren't due to lack of effort, just pointing out that Elyos do not have higher numbers.
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44 minutes ago, MXJ said:
The point remains the same - The faction that refuses to play the game seems to expect rewards for doing so. The goalpost just moves from "people aren't sieging" to "people aren't leveling."
I see the complaints here, and have both personally experienced and observed every single one of them happen to Asmos as well. If you really want to use "I get ganked" as an excuse, go somewhere you can't be ganked.I am just trying to understand how you came to the conclusion that Elyos outnumber Asmos.
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2 hours ago, MXJ said:
Looking at these is interesting, because in almost every single one the Elyos have more players online but less at siege.
That coupled with the people complaining that Elyos have less players (all the while it's untrue on both servers) really makes SL-E look like the "I want my participation trophy" faction. It sucks for the people actually showing up and putting in a ton of work, but what is anyone supposed to do about it?
- If Asmos reroll Elyos then the numbers advantage only grows larger.
- If Asmos start to give Elyos more free forts / contest forts less Asmos kill any morale Elyos currently have.
- If NCSoft gives Elyos anything more than just XP boosts it will cause an unstoppable swing in momentum, because Elyos already have the numbers advantage.
There's no real solution to incentivize Elyos players to attend sieges that doesn't just completely flip the scenario on it's head, because the issue isn't a lack of players it's a lack of attending players. It would be different if Asmos had 1500 people online and Elyos only had 1000.
Are you just looking at the total numbers? These include bots and lower levels, look at the lvl 50s, they tell a different story.
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1 hour ago, Amryth said:
Elyos side is definitely screwed right now. It’s not a lack of leadership, it’s a lack of numbers, no one can do anything. Once you hit 20, your options are to grind on Verteron elites or grind in Theobomos, as asmo have constant access to Eltnen and will prevent you from questing there. God help you once you hit 30 and get to Heiron, you can’t do anything there.
90% of content right now is blocked by asmo, especially mid 30s-40s. Alliances of asmo will camp in Heiron, blocking access to instances, steamrolling every Elyos they cross, literally killing everything in town including quest NPCs, etc. Even in Eltnen access to Fire Temple is getting blocked now as well. After 30 you really can’t play the game as an Elyos. I know many people who have quit due to this, and many more who will.
I plan to at least get a character of every class to 30, and after that I’ll probably quit for reasons mentioned above. The abyss and sieges will only get worse, and no amount of leadership can fix the dropping numbers.
Pretty much this.
Abyss is even worse, you can't do anything unless you have an alliance with you. Even then you will get swarmed pretty quickly. Any 1v1 you get is against someone with much better gear/skill than you. Or a ranger jumps out of hide and blows you up XD.
It's a combination of things, Asmos have far greater numbers, leadership with a lot of experience, and much better gear. A lot of people went Asmo/rerolled Asmo for easymode. The result of that is they are controlling everything, with lots of Elyos quitting before they even hit 40 because they get steamrolled in Eltnen/Heiron.
I don't blame anyone for doing this, it is a game after all and getting kills is fun. But if it keeps up Siel will be the same as Israphel pretty quickly, then we all lose out. I am hoping that people hang on for more patches to be released because ap/gear will come a lot easier, just gotta think long-term and not get put off by the current situation.
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ty for free fort <3
lol good
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Forth's Fort Log — Siege Numbers: Siel & Israphel — Updated Regularly [Classic]
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This is correct, there are a lot of EU on Elyos side too (there's even a legion named eu waiting room). I could be wrong but my understanding was Israphel has an even bigger EU player base.
I believe the earlier sieges are ok, but the later ones are at like 2-4am in the UK. Which is obviously out of the question for the majority of them.