5s125946-DN Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 There are no Att 5s manastones on broker. We need an influx from events, drops or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyfur Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 It's not the lack, it's the game bug which destroys all existing manastones on the piece of gear if socketing a manastone fails. They fixed that bug in later versions of Aion, but missed it in Classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5s237C24 Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Cyfur said: It's not the lack, it's the game bug which destroys all existing manastones on the piece of gear if socketing a manastone fails. They fixed that bug in later versions of Aion, but missed it in Classic. This is not a bug. This is the "manastone socketing behaviour" as was intended to be at early version. And is the same now because is aion classic. Nc changed this in retail at certain version (idk 4/5?) However i think aion population have to make a choice: cry for bot presence or lack of items in economy/higher prices. Edited July 2, 2022 by 5s237C24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Load Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, 5s237C24 said: This is not a bug. This is the "manastone socketing behaviour" as was intended to be at early version. And is the same now because is aion classic. Nc changed this in retail at certain version (idk 4/5?) However i think aion population have to make a choice: cry for bot presence or lack of items in economy/higher prices. It's waste of time to quote Cyfur tbh. As to the bots, this is my view: good drops = no need of bots; bad drops = need of bots. What did NC do? Made drops nonexistent thus creating a demand for bots OR cash shop additions. We are seeing that happening right now with kinah and stigmas being sold in the shop (kinah was always there but it's on another level now). I actually blame the players for that. Most say "it's only 5, I don't mind" but it never stops on $5. Edited July 2, 2022 by Load Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chepi Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 they should just put manastone back from the daeva pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyfur Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, 5s237C24 said: This is not a bug. This is the "manastone socketing behaviour" as was intended to be at early version. And is the same now because is aion classic. Nc changed this in retail at certain version (idk 4/5?) However i think aion population have to make a choice: cry for bot presence or lack of items in economy/higher prices. Bugs are a feature until they are fixed. Bug is a value judgement, if the community says it's a bug it eventually gets fixed. It's just NCsoft takes a long time to listen to the community. eg. If you look at the Mithril coin reward weapons, all of them have 335HP except the Chanters staff which only has 134HP To me, that's clearly a data entry bug, I am a programmer, but others might call it a feature. Edited July 2, 2022 by Cyfur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crush Posted July 2, 2022 Share Posted July 2, 2022 The drop rate is so shit. Just about every active player on the server kills 80 mobs a day for medal dailies. I go farm mobs before dredge, tiak, fort siege ,etc. for dp. Seeing a manastone in my inventory is rare AF. I about fell over when I was forced to kill an SC entrance mob and got a blue design. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyfur Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Crush said: The drop rate is so shit. Just about every active player on the server kills 80 mobs a day for medal dailies. I go farm mobs before dredge, tiak, fort siege ,etc. for dp. Seeing a manastone in my inventory is rare AF. I about fell over when I was forced to kill an SC entrance mob and got a blue design. I do the Mith coin daily and I can't remember the last time I picked up a Manastone from that. From time to time I find one in my inventory. Mostly in instances. There are dozens of bots grinding Inggison 24/7 so I presume that's were the stones on the broker are coming from. There are always some on the broker of what I am looking for. Edited July 3, 2022 by Cyfur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crush Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, Cyfur said: I do the Mith coin daily and I can't remember the last time I picked up a Manastone from that. From time to time I find one in my inventory. Mostly in instances. There are dozens of bots grinding Inggison 24/7 so I presume that's were the stones on the broker are coming from. There are always some on the broker of what I am looking for. Well, MR 14's are like 1.5-2m I think. There was a streak of about 6 days were there weren't any on the broker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azii Posted July 3, 2022 Share Posted July 3, 2022 Please, the manastone issue is getting really bad. If NC west can't fix the drop rate issue without help from Korea at least add them back to the pass. The supplements are worthless without any stones to actually use them with. I'd much rather have manastones than the supplements and I'd think its safe to say the rest of the community would as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyfur Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 I still laugh at the logic. The product is faulty, it keeps breaking. The proposed solution is we need more product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5s125946-DN Posted July 4, 2022 Author Share Posted July 4, 2022 Either solution is acceptable. Either give us more mana stones or make it so all of them do not get lost with a fail. I don't care either way but do something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Neferupito Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 On 7/2/2022 at 7:18 PM, Chepi said: they should just put manastone back from the daeva pass. Your bots don't find manastones either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avator-KT Posted July 4, 2022 Share Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) All MMOs have money sinks so they can tune inflation. The product is not faulty, it's literally by design so the economy doesn't spiral out of control. One can "disagree" with the design, or not like the design, it's in no way shape or form a "bug". (which is when code doesn't behave the way we intended) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_sink Anyway an easy way to remedy high inflation is to increase the supply (improve drop rates). If the market is flooded with manastones, then you won't care if it takes 100 to socket your piece because they'll be fairly low priced. If you want to remove a money sink out the game, know that what they'll do is just add another that might be even more egregious. And I remember Plumes, bracelets, accessory enchanting, wing enchanting, stigma combining and other nightmares that came later in game... that were all far worse than manastone sinks. TL:DR yes please increase drop rates Edited July 4, 2022 by Avator-KT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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