AION Classic 2.7 Update: Revenant - Official Release Date Announcement

[Roseae]

Greetings Daevas!

“It is not the path of every Daeva to Ascend.”

Aion Classic 2.7 Update is almost here! With this new update, a brand new class will be available to all Aion Classic players!
The Revenant, a new exclusive class that wields deadly, retractable Chainblades will debut in AION Classic on May 9, 2023.

Thank you!
The Aion Team

[Shirene-DN]

Is this an update for the bots? cause no one else will be playing here by then.

[Zarbi]

Do we get an extra character slot unlocked so we can play this new class?

 

[Aijumi]

Good joke ^^ What will we do with these new class when nothing drops to equip it... Keep your class and rise the droprates over 200 %, ban the nyerki** bots and then maybe players will be return...

[Cyfur]

It's interesting how the drop rate reduction has bought all the bot runners out to complain over and over in CAPS.

Hopefully they will move to the EU.

[Squid]

26 minutes ago, Cyfur said:

It's interesting how the drop rate reduction has bought all the bot runners out to complain over and over in CAPS.

Hopefully they will move to the EU.

You understand that bot runners are profiting massively right? People are paying for item packages because they do not have the kinah to buy say potions and so on. Imagine this players paying $10-15 for 1-2 weeks of potions LOL.

That is all the nerf has done it has made it so bot runners make more money now more than ever. If there were a 15-1 bot to player ratio like over in Korea then it would be a different story but it is not like that here in NA.

Edited April 12, 2023 by Squid

[Cyfur]

21 minutes ago, Squid said:

You understand that bot runners are profiting massively right? People are paying for item packages because they do not have the kinah to buy say potions and so on. Imagine this players paying $10-15 for 1-2 weeks of potions LOL.

That is all the nerf has done it has made it so bot runners make more money now more than ever. If there were a 15-1 bot to player ratio like over in Korea then it would be a different story but it is not like that here in NA.

As someone pointed out earlier, the Korean servers now make the merchants only pay 1 kinah for a word drop item. Hardly a great incentive to run a world farming bot.

What it does show, is that the Korean devs have a strategy to combat the crazy inflation the bots have caused in the game.

 

[Squid]

18 minutes ago, Cyfur said:

As someone pointed out earlier, the Korean servers now make the merchants only pay 1 kinah for a word drop item. Hardly a great incentive to run a world farming bot.

What it does show, is that the Korean devs have a strategy to combat the crazy inflation the bots have caused in the game.

 

Bots run around in circles above bosses farming in dungeons as well. Taking away 1 source will not take away all sources... I would love for that to be the fix but it does not fix the crazy inflation.

How are you expected to farm kinah if you take away all sources of kinah just because of bots? The answer is you can not because what ever a player can do a bot can do.

Edited April 12, 2023 by Squid

[Zarbi]

6 minutes ago, Squid said:

Bots run around in circles above bosses farming in dungeons as well. Taking away 1 source will not take away all sources... I would love for that to be the fix but it does not fix the crazy inflation.

How are you expected to farm kinah if you take away all sources of kinah just because of bots? The answer is you can not because what ever a player can do a bot can do.

Of course it fixes the crazy inflation.

Where do you think the extra kinah comes from that gets into the economy to drive up prices, Tiger pink candies? No, it comes from the bots selling drops to the merchants.

 

[Cyfur]

17 minutes ago, Squid said:

How are you expected to farm kinah if you take away all sources of kinah just because of bots? The answer is you can not because what ever a player can do a bot can do.

I believe the devs do not want you to farm kinah, they want you to get it from quests and instances the kinah rewards for which they will increase when the 1 kinah merchant reward system comes in. I don't know if we get it in 2.7 or have to wait for a later patch.

[Squid]

Just now, Cyfur said:

I believe the devs do not want you to farm kinah, they want you to get it from quests and instances the kinah rewards for which they will increase when the 1 kinah merchant reward system comes in. I don't know if we get it in 2.7 or have to wait for a later patch.

Bots can do both quests and instances. They run around above bosses killing them w/o the bosses being able to attack them, Bots do not only bot they also hack while they bot.

Maybe i am not understanding what people mean by the merchant reward system? I assume something like the longer you are subbed the more your items are worth?

15 minutes ago, Zurl said:

Of course it fixes the crazy inflation.

Where do you think the extra kinah comes from that gets into the economy to drive up prices, Tiger pink candies? No, it comes from the bots selling drops to the merchants.

 

NA suffers from lack of items not from kinah inflation, KR suffers from kinah inflation and an abundance of items unless over the last month a change happened in KR that i am not aware of. They are 2 completely separate issues one is created by there not being enough bots and one being created by their being an abundance of bots.

So long as you can earn currency in-game bots will be able to earn it faster. There is no counter to bots except making kinah cash shop only and if they do that no one plays anyways so it is a lose lose.

Again if there is something i am not understanding about the merchant reward system please let me know i am not a stubborn fool if i get something wrong i get it wrong.

[Zarbi]

18 minutes ago, Squid said:

So long as you can earn currency in-game bots will be able to earn it faster.

How do bots generate new kinah to sell other than world drops?

 

[Squid]

5 minutes ago, Zurl said:

How do bots generate new kinah to sell other than world drops?

Any boss that is melee or does not have 25m range bots can hack and kill the bosses from above them while keeping their agro by moving around in a circle. Anything a player can do a bot can also do put it that way. There mite be some bosses that they can not do but there is enough instances bosses where as they could easily get themselves kinah capped thus be able to out farm players and keep kinah inflation going. If players are unable to hit kinah cap when the new change comes in then it will be even worse than before not better because players share loot often with 5 other people depending on the content.

Edited April 12, 2023 by Squid

[Zarbi]

Instances have limits. Bots can't run those all day.

 

[Squid]

5 minutes ago, Zurl said:

Instances have limits. Bots can't run those all day.

Unsure how to say this w/o being condescending just let it be known that i am not trying to say it this way. You understand bots can just make more accounts till they can run them 24/7 yea? They can have 1000s of accounts if they want to so long as there is not enough pro-active enforcement banning them.

[Grammita]

AION CLASSIC? Why a new class? WHY ??? WHY ????????????????????

[Richmond]

Glad to see you guys still working on aion classic, but apparently missing communication with players. We are expecting existing bugs fixed rather than new patch comes.

[Lychee]

7 hours ago, Squid said:

THEY WILL NEVER FIX IT BECAUSE IT WORKS AS INTENDED IN KOREA. HOW IS THIS SO HARD FOR NA PLAYERS TO UNDERSTAND...

They fixed it b4 the newest patch broke it again. Why wouldn't they fix it again?

[Zarbi]

Just now, Squid said:

Unsure how to say this w/o being condescending just let it be known that i am not trying to say it this way. You understand bots can just make more accounts till they can run them 24/7 yea? They can have 1000s of accounts if they want to so long as there is not enough pro-active enforcement banning them.

You understand that NCsoft will have thought about that, and have had since Feb to observe in Korea if the bot runners are going to bother with such things.

They know the sources and sinks of kinah in the economy and can adjust them to maintain a desired inflation rate. eg. if an instance becomes exploited, reduce it's rewards. Just like they have done with the rewards from world drops.

 

Edited April 12, 2023 by Zurl

[Squid]

1 hour ago, Zurl said:

You understand that NCsoft will have thought about that, and have had since Feb to observe in Korea if the bot runners are going to bother with such things.

They know the sources and sinks of kinah in the economy and can adjust them to maintain a desired inflation rate. eg. if an instance becomes exploited, reduce it's rewards. Just like they have done with the rewards from world drops.

 

Eventually if you take away all sources of kinah the only option left is to buy kinah straight from NCsoft. How is being reliant on NCsoft the solution? That is what makes retail as bad as it is because you have to rely on events/cash shop purchases to have any sort of gameplay progression w/o having 18 hours a day during events OR bot events.

If every single item in the game including dungeon items becomes 1 kinah then what? This is what will happen when bots are pushed in to instances. Let me give you an example of the problem it causes and how it makes it even better for bots rather than worse for bots.

X3 = 150 if every single item in the game got nerfed to 1 kinah to combat the bots then you have a situation where players will need to grind 150 rubbish items just to afford 3 potions. Bots would now sell potion packages for RMT instead of selling the kinah itself and all of a sudden you have items no longer being listed and only being sold through RMT. 

Do you see the problem with taking away kinah sources? It affects players as much if not more than it affects bots because bot have new methods for RMT where as players have no source of gaining faster currency . If kinah source is low makes players reliant on NCsoft selling something in the cash shop that is worth kinah to even afford your daily necessities. Sounds a lot like retail to me.

 

[Cyfur]

1 hour ago, Squid said:

Eventually if you take away all sources of kinah the only option left is to buy kinah straight from NCsoft. How is being reliant on NCsoft the solution? That is what makes retail as bad as it is because you have to rely on events/cash shop purchases to have any sort of gameplay progression w/o having 18 hours a day during events OR bot events.

If every single item in the game including dungeon items becomes 1 kinah then what? This is what will happen when bots are pushed in to instances. Let me give you an example of the problem it causes and how it makes it even better for bots rather than worse for bots.

X3 = 150 if every single item in the game got nerfed to 1 kinah to combat the bots then you have a situation where players will need to grind 150 rubbish items just to afford 3 potions. Bots would now sell potion packages for RMT instead of selling the kinah itself and all of a sudden you have items no longer being listed and only being sold through RMT. 

Do you see the problem with taking away kinah sources? It affects players as much if not more than it affects bots because bot have new methods for RMT where as players have no source of gaining faster currency . If kinah source is low makes players reliant on NCsoft selling something in the cash shop that is worth kinah to even afford your daily necessities. Sounds a lot like retail to me.

 

That's the idea, it's to be pushed into quests and instances for rewards instead of grinding mobs.

In other words, actually playing the game.

 

[Squid]

44 minutes ago, Cyfur said:

That's the idea, it's to be pushed into quests and instances for rewards instead of grinding mobs.

In other words, actually playing the game.

 

How does that solve bots and kinah inflation? It does not, That is what zurl and myself were discussing. I do not disagree with you but ultimately what is happening is they are doing exactly what they did in retail. Remove so many different playstyles that you are reliant on events and cash shop to even play the game in any form of capacity which s**ts me to tears.

Like personally i thought the addition of the battle pass was top tier it was a way for people to support the game while being able to grind less but they did not just add the battle pass they removed features from the game to make the battle pass more appealing. That is not fixing the problem that is creating a problem to sell the solution which is exactly what retail is. That is what all these nerfs and so on are going to do.

Like what zurl said if kinah from instances becomes to much if bots spam dungeons then you end up with a situation where then everything inside of dungeons gets nerfed and now actually playing the game = not being rewarded for your efforts. What then? Or what happens if players complain they can not do the quests for kinah because there are to many bots doing the same quests. Then they nerf the kinah from quests.

If they keep taking kinah sources away eventually you will end up having 0 sources of kinah being attainable in-game to the point where the only way to get kinah will be to buy it from NCsoft.

[lCrushl-KT]

The thing is bots can do anything humans can just about. They can do quests, they can do instances, bot runners can have 100 accounts for events. NCSOFT gonna do what it does though, it doesn't like that they aren't the ones selling kinah to the players so they are trying to figure out how to do it all over again.

[Zarbi]

Just now, lCrushl-KT said:

The thing is bots can do anything humans can just about. They can do quests, they can do instances, bot runners can have 100 accounts for events. NCSOFT gonna do what it does though, it doesn't like that they aren't the ones selling kinah to the players so they are trying to figure out how to do it all over again.

So what?

If players can get kinah or items they need from quests  and instances, then they don't have a need to buy kinah from bot runners.

 

[Adorkable]

On 4/12/2023 at 9:51 AM, Cyfur said:

I believe the devs do not want you to farm kinah, they want you to get it from quests and instances the kinah rewards for which they will increase when the 1 kinah merchant reward system comes in. I don't know if we get it in 2.7 or have to wait for a later patch.

It's not the Kinah drops which  bother me - as much as it is  the  drops of meat , elemental stones, manastones - and other  items crafters need. 
The  meat is  really important to me as a cook, but I am able to  morph elemental stones.