Ziekel-DN Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 Hey guys, I am really confused. Does the orb have an advantage over spellbook in PVE? I didnt see a difference except in weapon damage stat. Does this affect the overall damage in anyway? Or it just affects the auto attack? Because although my legendary tome (3628+216) has much higher magic attack than the orb (3225+397) , my Magic attack stats in INFO tab is reduced by 100 Magic attack. Can someone explain or give an advice? Thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Secret Cow Level Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 For auto attacks, orbs have 2m range, books have 15m range. All Sorcere(r/ess) and Spiritmaster offensive skills have fixed range that are not affected by weapon range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziekel-DN Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 I am not sure if I really made my message clear, my question is does ORB give some hidden Magic attack stats when using it besides the one written on the weapon itself which the tome doesnt? My MATTK with Ancient Libertas Orb (3225+397 MATTK) = 11193 MATTK MY MATTAK with Legendary Voidsoul Spellbook (3628+216 MATTK) = 11093 MATTK You see what I was trying to ask about? How can my stats in INFO tab drop by 100 MATTK when using a weapon with more MATTK than the other one? I had minion, buffs and everything turned off when switching them both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primatus-DN Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Are you sure you don't have an underfuse in your ancient libertas Orb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziekel-DN Posted November 11, 2018 Author Share Posted November 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Primatus-DN said: Are you sure you don't have an underfuse in your ancient libertas Orb? I had an underfuse on the orb, but are you saying the fusion gives some other hidden buff than the total MATTK displayed on the weapon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andregark-DN Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Virgin Spellbook VS. Chad Orb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primatus-DN Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 6 hours ago, Ziekel-DN said: I had an underfuse on the orb, but are you saying the fusion gives some other hidden buff than the total MATTK displayed on the weapon? The option stats of underfuse are added to your total stats too, so if your underfuse has magical attack it will add on. On other hand, there might be a chance that it's the damage boost from weapon passive. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RoresJlypQ0sWRKT70XK_tqSl92TQaNAsE5Ii66yM5s/edit#gid=0 Seems like spellbook gives 8% boost while orb gives 44% boost. Might be something related to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primatus-DN Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Okay, scrap all of that lol. Turns out your weapon attack is increased by 10% when u combine. So you orb gives an extra 10% of 3225 ie 322 more magic attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziekel-DN Posted November 11, 2018 Author Share Posted November 11, 2018 Well that seems to be the only logical explanation to what happened. May I ask you from where did you get that information about 10% more attack?! And was it always like that in prrvious versions or this is something new to 6.2? Thanks Primatus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primatus-DN Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 It was not that way in the previous versions iirc. And I found the 10% more attack thing by experimenting on my own toon. And then I tried the same formula with your orb (i found out your weapon-less magical attack by subtracting the spellbook stats cuz u said it was not fused) and it gave the same 10% result to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryzin-DN Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 16 hours ago, Ziekel-DN said: Well that seems to be the only logical explanation to what happened. May I ask you from where did you get that information about 10% more attack?! And was it always like that in prrvious versions or this is something new to 6.2? Thanks Primatus. It has always been like this ever since combining two hand weapons started back in 1.9. 10% of the secondary weapon base magic boost and base attack were added to the total base stat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Secret Cow Level Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 On 11/11/2018 at 11:13 AM, Primatus-DN said: The option stats of underfuse are added to your total stats too, so if your underfuse has magical attack it will add on. On other hand, there might be a chance that it's the damage boost from weapon passive. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RoresJlypQ0sWRKT70XK_tqSl92TQaNAsE5Ii66yM5s/edit#gid=0 Seems like spellbook gives 8% boost while orb gives 44% boost. Might be something related to that. Weapon Attack affects auto attack only and do not affect skill damage. Weapon masteries gives percentage boost to Weapon Attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azzmaria-KT Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 we had in previous versions too, that 10% from the secondary weapon MB and Attack. But also that 10% was added on your weapon description. So you should see that number already added. It is not like a hidden number. for example: if you fused 2 orbs with 1200+X MB, the result was an orb that said 1320+2X MB. That 120 was added. So results weir for me that is not in your initial numbers. Not sure if the attack and casting speed made a difference there. Maybe what you say is that we can have some pasive factor that aplies on each weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unskilled-KT Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 No difference in stats. Wepon attack is ignored when using skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reficul-DN Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Ok This isn't as relevant now as it was before but the old stats system spell books had higher base magic accuracy while Orbs had higher base magic boost. I'm not sure if that is still the case as out of habit i still pick orb for pve but that is what the original different was. This was the only difference and really what people use to use depended on their own preference towards socketing. With this patch however Wep dmg does effect magic skills and your weps base stats are all very important. as you progress in the game right now you shouldn't worry so much about orb or spell book but instead focus on which gives you more stats overall. Especially the pve stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arhangelos Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 On 11/11/2018 at 11:40 PM, Ziekel-DN said: Well that seems to be the only logical explanation to what happened. May I ask you from where did you get that information about 10% more attack?! And was it always like that in prrvious versions or this is something new to 6.2? Thanks Primatus. it is 10% of the base attack of the fused weapon, it was always like this. Not +10% generally. So if you fuse a weapon that has 1000 m.attack you will get +100 magic attack on the fused weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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