lYasser-KT Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 so i found this glad ive never seen before i hit him like i have no gear im full geared iddhm/pfhm ulti form full cubics and a decent collections all dazz without saying he was full debuffed with all my debuffs so atleast -3500 magical def i hit him like i have no gear at all ;D well he was red on meter so he is animation hacker but ive never seen such def in my life i fought a lot of full geared glads and i can burst them so fast thats a first for me thats why im confused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Secret Cow Level Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Let's see: Asmo Gladiator skills Lets look at the magical defense (MagicalPowerBoostResist) buffs gladiators have: 1,600: Defense Preparation (800 Mag Def + 800 PvP Def = 1,600 PvP Mag Def) (Toggle skill) 2,200: (Advanced) Magic Defense (2,000 if not advanced) (Normal stigma) Total PvP Magical Defense buffs: 3,800 (5,800 when feared by your SM) (Gladiators do not have notable shield skills besides the 4,208 / 3,117 Dauntless Spirit advanced/regular damage reduction) Elyos Spiritmaster SKills Lets look at your magical defense debuffs: 400: Sandblaster 660: (Advanced) Shackle of Vulnerability (550 if not advanced) 900: (Advanced) Infernal Blight (800 if not advanced) 600: (Advanced) Magic's Freedom (500 if not advanced) 1,380: +5 Hex (Gemstone skill, including +5 effect) Total Magical Defense debuffs: 3,940 Note: your fears increases your enemy's phy+mag defenses by 2,000! I will now try to estimate your opponent's stats using your myaion screenshot: Advanced Magic Implosion 1,464 base tick damage your doing 1,100 average tick damage 1,100 / 0.26 PvP reduction / 1.25 shards = 3,385 damage before applying shards and PvP damage reduction 3,385 / 1,464 base tick damage = 2.312 actual damage to base damage ratio (2.312 - 1) / 1,000 = 1,312 net magic attack (Magical DoT ticks do not take your class's 115 base knowledge in calculation) Aegis Breaker 1,343 base tick damage at +1 your doing 438 average tick damage Minimum damage when opponent's magic defense > (your magical attack + your pvp attack): 1,343 * 1.25 * 0.26 = 436 Were your opponent feared when you used Aegis Breaker on him? (Advanced) Inescapable Choke 1,286 base damage You averaged 788 damage per hit without crits 788 / 0.26 PvP reduction / 1.25 shards = 3,031 damage before applying shards and PvP damage reduction 3,031 / 1,286 = 2.357 actual damage to base damage ratio (2.357 - 1) / 1,000 = 1,357 appear net magic attack before factoring in spiritmaster's 115 base knowledge 1,357 - 150 = 1,157 net magic attack (115 base knowledge is sort of like +150 magical attack) What's your magic attack + pvp attack? Your opponent's (magic defense + pvp defense) ~= your (magic attack + pvp attack) - net magic attack mentioned above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esgalhathi Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Welcome to the Glad vs SM 7.8 patch A Glad only loose to SM if he is undergeared (like me :P) or get caught without PVP gear and dont have time to pop up Magic Defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lYasser-KT Posted April 6, 2021 Author Share Posted April 6, 2021 2 hours ago, TheSecretCowLeve-KT said: Let's see: Asmo Gladiator skills Lets look at the magical defense (MagicalPowerBoostResist) buffs gladiators have: 1,600: Defense Preparation (800 Mag Def + 800 PvP Def = 1,600 PvP Mag Def) (Toggle skill) 2,200: (Advanced) Magic Defense (2,000 if not advanced) (Normal stigma) Total PvP Magical Defense buffs: 3,800 (5,800 when feared by your SM) (Gladiators do not have notable shield skills besides the 4,208 / 3,117 Dauntless Spirit advanced/regular damage reduction) Elyos Spiritmaster SKills Lets look at your magical defense debuffs: 400: Sandblaster 660: (Advanced) Shackle of Vulnerability (550 if not advanced) 900: (Advanced) Infernal Blight (800 if not advanced) 600: (Advanced) Magic's Freedom (500 if not advanced) 1,380: +5 Hex (Gemstone skill, including +5 effect) Total Magical Defense debuffs: 3,940 Note: your fears increases your enemy's phy+mag defenses by 2,000! I will now try to estimate your opponent's stats using your myaion screenshot: Advanced Magic Implosion 1,464 base tick damage your doing 1,100 average tick damage 1,100 / 0.26 PvP reduction / 1.25 shards = 3,385 damage before applying shards and PvP damage reduction 3,385 / 1,464 base tick damage = 2.312 actual damage to base damage ratio (2.312 - 1) / 1,000 = 1,312 net magic attack (Magical DoT ticks do not take your class's 115 base knowledge in calculation) Aegis Breaker 1,343 base tick damage at +1 your doing 438 average tick damage Minimum damage when opponent's magic defense > (your magical attack + your pvp attack): 1,343 * 1.25 * 0.26 = 436 Were your opponent feared when you used Aegis Breaker on him? (Advanced) Inescapable Choke 1,286 base damage You averaged 788 damage per hit without crits 788 / 0.26 PvP reduction / 1.25 shards = 3,031 damage before applying shards and PvP damage reduction 3,031 / 1,286 = 2.357 actual damage to base damage ratio (2.357 - 1) / 1,000 = 1,357 appear net magic attack before factoring in spiritmaster's 115 base knowledge 1,357 - 150 = 1,157 net magic attack (115 base knowledge is sort of like +150 magical attack) What's your magic attack + pvp attack? Your opponent's (magic defense + pvp defense) ~= your (magic attack + pvp attack) - net magic attack mentioned above magic attack 23.5 k pvp attack 1377 2 minutes ago, Bjorn-DN said: Welcome to the Glad vs SM 7.8 patch A Glad only loose to SM if he is undergeared (like me :P) or get caught without PVP gear and dont have time to pop up Magic Defense sad life man 4 minutes ago, Bjorn-DN said: Welcome to the Glad vs SM 7.8 patch A Glad only loose to SM if he is undergeared (like me :P) or get caught without PVP gear and dont have time to pop up Magic Defense its not about glad i kill full geared glads easily just silence burry take off their armor that give 1 k fear resist 1 fear they done ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lYasser-KT Posted April 6, 2021 Author Share Posted April 6, 2021 2 hours ago, TheSecretCowLeve-KT said: Let's see: Asmo Gladiator skills Lets look at the magical defense (MagicalPowerBoostResist) buffs gladiators have: 1,600: Defense Preparation (800 Mag Def + 800 PvP Def = 1,600 PvP Mag Def) (Toggle skill) 2,200: (Advanced) Magic Defense (2,000 if not advanced) (Normal stigma) Total PvP Magical Defense buffs: 3,800 (5,800 when feared by your SM) (Gladiators do not have notable shield skills besides the 4,208 / 3,117 Dauntless Spirit advanced/regular damage reduction) Elyos Spiritmaster SKills Lets look at your magical defense debuffs: 400: Sandblaster 660: (Advanced) Shackle of Vulnerability (550 if not advanced) 900: (Advanced) Infernal Blight (800 if not advanced) 600: (Advanced) Magic's Freedom (500 if not advanced) 1,380: +5 Hex (Gemstone skill, including +5 effect) Total Magical Defense debuffs: 3,940 Note: your fears increases your enemy's phy+mag defenses by 2,000! I will now try to estimate your opponent's stats using your myaion screenshot: Advanced Magic Implosion 1,464 base tick damage your doing 1,100 average tick damage 1,100 / 0.26 PvP reduction / 1.25 shards = 3,385 damage before applying shards and PvP damage reduction 3,385 / 1,464 base tick damage = 2.312 actual damage to base damage ratio (2.312 - 1) / 1,000 = 1,312 net magic attack (Magical DoT ticks do not take your class's 115 base knowledge in calculation) Aegis Breaker 1,343 base tick damage at +1 your doing 438 average tick damage Minimum damage when opponent's magic defense > (your magical attack + your pvp attack): 1,343 * 1.25 * 0.26 = 436 Were your opponent feared when you used Aegis Breaker on him? (Advanced) Inescapable Choke 1,286 base damage You averaged 788 damage per hit without crits 788 / 0.26 PvP reduction / 1.25 shards = 3,031 damage before applying shards and PvP damage reduction 3,031 / 1,286 = 2.357 actual damage to base damage ratio (2.357 - 1) / 1,000 = 1,357 appear net magic attack before factoring in spiritmaster's 115 base knowledge 1,357 - 150 = 1,157 net magic attack (115 base knowledge is sort of like +150 magical attack) What's your magic attack + pvp attack? Your opponent's (magic defense + pvp defense) ~= your (magic attack + pvp attack) - net magic attack mentioned above idk if its possible to get almost 25 k def plus he wasn't feared all the time to get that 2 k def Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iostcrazyman-KT Posted April 7, 2021 Share Posted April 7, 2021 It is entirely possible I know some people who are currently running MS sets because they do not reach the mr needed for the resist set to be viable. But lets say he was not in MS set, my m.def is 16.9k def prep would make it 17.7 magic def 19.9k. I have 2.251 pvp def def prep gives me 3.051. So 19.9k m.def and 3.051 pvp def is pretty close to your m.atk and pvp atk. idk if they have enchanted transform runes so did not include this in the pvp def. If they did have the MS set they could have an extra 1.224 m.def so 21.1k m.def with 3.051 pvp def if they had hyperion minion even higher at that point you would literally do 0 dmg to them In a MS set you would pretty much being doing tool tip dmg only to them only Not saying this is the case just giving you a possibility with how much players p2w could always be a possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenericUser46331 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 On 4/6/2021 at 10:25 PM, lYasser-KT said: so i found this glad ive never seen before i hit him like i have no gear im full geared iddhm/pfhm ulti form full cubics and a decent collections all dazz without saying he was full debuffed with all my debuffs so atleast -3500 magical def i hit him like i have no gear at all ;D well he was red on meter so he is animation hacker but ive never seen such def in my life i fought a lot of full geared glads and i can burst them so fast thats a first for me thats why im confused noob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SongBRewer-KT Posted April 13, 2021 Share Posted April 13, 2021 On 4/6/2021 at 11:25 AM, lYasser-KT said: so i found this glad ive never seen before i hit him like i have no gear im full geared iddhm/pfhm ulti form full cubics and a decent collections all dazz without saying he was full debuffed with all my debuffs so atleast -3500 magical def i hit him like i have no gear at all ;D well he was red on meter so he is animation hacker but ive never seen such def in my life i fought a lot of full geared glads and i can burst them so fast thats a first for me thats why im confused he is full paragon wep and armor gm friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lYasser-KT Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 On 4/12/2021 at 2:36 PM, GenericUser46331 said: noob teach me senpai On 4/13/2021 at 6:27 PM, SongBRewer-KT said: he is full paragon wep and armor gm friend ye probably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkanus-DN Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 On 4/6/2021 at 7:04 PM, Bjorn-DN said: Welcome to the Glad vs SM 7.8 patch A Glad only loose to SM if he is undergeared (like me :P) or get caught without PVP gear and dont have time to pop up Magic Defense It is not about winning or losing, it is about the ridiculous low damage he was causing on the glad. Even if you're running around with a full Mdef set you should be taking way more damage seems like another exploited Paragon hero for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramen Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 @Kibbelz @Loki Can you guys clarify the situation to us or we should take action and send an formal e-mail to ncsoft office about the suspicious things that is going on in ncwest aion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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