Zanzaelus-DN Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 https://ibb.co/92KnKH9https://aionpowerbook.com/powerbook/KR_-_Update_December_26th_2018?fbclid=IwAR0vmBNl7iT5lVdlgraxb1YWYc1PKtcYK-55ALZU-U66mloOibGC9KBwirI#Instanced_Dungeon According to the update that came from KR, kicks in evergale was never a bug but something of the patch itself. So how can people take permaban from something that came in the patch itself? It should be better evaluated, because who is wrong is the company in not checking even the updates themselves Just Check Links. I don't want problems, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nylo-KT Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 @Cyan need an explain, this is not even players fault. How many times that NCwest banned people because of the game mistake?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nylo-KT Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 also if GMs played this game, you would see these bugs... nice job NCwest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakesh-DN Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 That's interesting! I'm going to take a wild guess though that upon going back into the instance, that +1 was supposed to be consumed, unless it wasn't the case in Korea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squid Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rakesh-DN said: That's interesting! I'm going to take a wild guess though that upon going back into the instance, that +1 was supposed to be consumed, unless it wasn't the case in Korea? It depends how you look at it. Everyone always says KR = super populated/competitive so the chances of them ever finding this bug over there would be impossible because there would always be more than just 1 open at a time. Here in NA where to make it pop you need to que up alts then it was far easier for us to find out about this exploit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ereliya-KT Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 People blow me away how special they are. Yes it was a bug the kick feature is meant for the competitive players who saw they would lose to go next but you obv when you entered a new EC and finished it you got rewards nothing from the ones you got kicked in and when you finished the EC you couldn't keep gaining more runs because to get rewards the EC would have to finish and you can't kick at that point anymore. So something happened to NA spaghetti code and nyerked up for us and yes it was an exploit for those who used it. END OF STORY people need to stop trying to point fingers to feel less guilty for being a scumbag. Own up to it, you expoited you got punished, grow up and move on. Sure NC needs to be on top of this stuff better but you steal from a store you say, "oh they should have better security?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BigSexyHook-KT Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 37 minutes ago, Ereliya-KT said: People blow me away how special they are. Yes it was a bug the kick feature is meant for the competitive players who saw they would lose to go next Mmm isn't that just a softcore version of current EC exploit? Asking to be kicked over and over untill you get in a winning EC? I believe the kicking function was meant for leaders to be able kick AFKers or Intentional Feeders Lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ereliya-KT Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 43 minutes ago, BigSexyHook-KT said: Mmm isn't that just a softcore version of current EC exploit? Asking to be kicked over and over untill you get in a winning EC? I believe the kicking function was meant for leaders to be able kick AFKers or Intentional Feeders Lmao Yes of course you can use to kick them but they just re-queue the thing is you don't get any rewards til you actually finish an EC so if you spend the whole EC queue time and don't finish a single EC you get nothing. And it doesn't stack over the cap of 2/2. That is why we had an issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aly-DN Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 hours ago, HealingSquid-KT said: It depends how you look at it. Everyone always says KR = super populated/competitive so the chances of them ever finding this bug over there would be impossible because there would always be more than just 1 open at a time. Here in NA where to make it pop you need to que up alts then it was far easier for us to find out about this exploit. I think this is closest to the actual explanation. There are two things that are just facts. First, if you put power into the hands of players, some asshat is going to misuse it. Second, if you allow players to gain a meaningful reward for doing absolutely nothing, some players will do absolutely nothing. In allowing players to kick others from EC, the devs solved the second. In giving a player back their entry if they are kicked, they solved the first. But what they didn't envision is a third fact and that is, if there is a way to game the system, NA players are going to find it and run with it to silly extremes. Thus was born the EC alliance recruit posts entitled, "EC - kick fast alliance". Because our population is a lot smaller than Korea's, players gaining an extra entry while also completing the EC they were kicked from probably didn't happen often. Also, the Korean players can actually count to 2, which was apparently an issue with many NA players who are now crying big salty tears that they were banned unfairly. Required video for playing Aion.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnionKnight-DN Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 no hotfix no immediate action but after several months exploits then finally totally diabled EC…… and with several months silence, NC decided to ban ppl and with the bug still here. Ppl who exploited lost, ppl who didnt exploit lost, NC also lost ppl who is willing to p2w and hardcore on game itself. GG simida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINTINTIN-DN Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 4 hours ago, Ereliya-KT said: People blow me away how special they are. Yes it was a bug the kick feature is meant for the competitive players who saw they would lose to go next but you obv when you entered a new EC and finished it you got rewards nothing from the ones you got kicked in and when you finished the EC you couldn't keep gaining more runs because to get rewards the EC would have to finish and you can't kick at that point anymore. So something happened to NA spaghetti code and nyerked up for us and yes it was an exploit for those who used it. END OF STORY people need to stop trying to point fingers to feel less guilty for being a scumbag. Own up to it, you expoited you got punished, grow up and move on. Sure NC needs to be on top of this stuff better but you steal from a store you say, "oh they should have better security?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aly-DN Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, TINTINTIN-DN said: cant you see it was an update from KR, that ended up being a problem in NA, if we look at it this way, it was never the players fault for taking advantage of something that was intended, you just wrote a big wall of text full of nonsense, holy nyerk So you think that it was intended by the devs that players should be able to run unlimited ECs without having to pay a dime? Please stop. You're embarrassing yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINTINTIN-DN Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Aly-DN said: So you think that it was intended by the devs that players should be able to run unlimited ECs without having to pay a dime? Please stop. You're embarrassing yourself. im wrong , you are right, thats what every single girl wants to hear, happy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulbert-KT Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 Who remembers Tiamaranta eye event where they instantly(after office hours) deployed a hot fix(without turning off the server) to remove the vendor that was selling stuff cheap? I do. Why was this not done as soon as there were reports about this bug? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arhangelos Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 11 hours ago, Zanzaelus-DN said: https://ibb.co/92KnKH9https://aionpowerbook.com/powerbook/KR_-_Update_December_26th_2018?fbclid=IwAR0vmBNl7iT5lVdlgraxb1YWYc1PKtcYK-55ALZU-U66mloOibGC9KBwirI#Instanced_Dungeon According to the update that came from KR, kicks in evergale was never a bug but something of the patch itself. So how can people take permaban from something that came in the patch itself? It should be better evaluated, because who is wrong is the company in not checking even the updates themselves Just Check Links. I don't want problems, thanks. This is just bad mechanics which was abused by gamers. The problem is that when you re-enter the same game you just left, it doesn't drain a new entry. I do not understand why they made it this way, like if you get kicked by a PF group and then they change their mind and bring you back or something? If you get kicked they most likely don't re-invite you, and if you leave yourself then you should do it willingly knowing your entry might get lost. Anyway, as others said, in a dead server where you only have one EC at the moment, you got kicked, got your entry back, and then you re-applied getting in without burning your refunded entry because you got thrown into the same game you previously left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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