Aion Team Arctic Posted September 8, 2021 Aion Team Share Posted September 8, 2021 Hi everyone, First, we'd like to thank the community for their patience while we conducted our investigation of AP trading. We would also like to thank everyone who reported this abuse via our official support channels. This morning we issued our first wave of suspensions and bans related to this issue. Within the wave, the most egregious abusers have been permanently banned; those players who abused the in-game mechanics to a lesser extent have been issued suspensions, with related AP items removed from their accounts. This process required serious investigation and consideration, but we are committed to ensuring that punitive actions are handed out appropriately and proportional to the magnitude of the offense. In the coming weeks we will be actioning additional waves of accounts. We want to remind all players that intentionally trading kills to acquire an unfair advantage over others is considered a violation of our User Agreement. After we complete this initial review, we will continue monitoring for activity which fits this criteria and action accounts as necessary - which may include a permanent ban on your account. For anyone who needs to hear it: engaging in AP trading puts your account at extreme risk for suspension or bans! Going forward, we will not provide individual updates for each wave as we have here, but we wanted to update the community specifically in this instance since it was our first investigation. Thanks again to everyone who waited patiently while we conducted this investigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelatin-DN Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Nice! Now give us those 50% scrolls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleights-KT Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 great news, good job NCsoft! @Kibbelzare you also checking the people who traded officer kills for godstones? there was also people selling the officer kill quest that rewards a godstone for irl money. i do hope you take the ill-gotten godstones away too as they provide an unfair advantage in pvp. should be easy to check to see if they just killed the same person over and over. etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloppytoppygluck Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 good stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoloranger Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Lady Justice, nice to see u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilNefilims-DN Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Great news now if ncsoft decides to release 1.5 next week maybe im gonna resub, otherwise good luck extending another month this patch without content me and my friends we gonna quit if no 1.5 next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oneiros Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 17 minutes ago, Kibbelz said: Going forward, we will not provide individual updates for each wave as we have here, but we wanted to update the community specifically in this instance since it was our first investigation. @Kibbelz With much respect, this is a mistake. One of the reasons the community has been so upset and dissatisfied is the lack of communication. You should continue to communicate each and every time bans occur. We do not ask you to be specific, just continue communicating. When we think NCSoft cares about this game, it makes us care about the game and want to continue to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vashiro Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 THANK YOU SO MUCH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crush Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Just now, DevilNefilims-DN said: Great news now if ncsoft decides to release 1.5 next week maybe im gonna resub, otherwise good luck extending another month this patch without content me and my friends we gonna quit if no 1.5 next week A lot of people theorize that it will come when this daeva pass ends (next week.) Hope they are right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musashi Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 What criteria applies to a permanent ban? A strip ? A suspension? Lets hear it, this semi answer to a game problem deserve transparency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fungie Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 @Kibbelz nice job with ban waves! totally off topic, but does Aion Classic not get a anniversary event too like retail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaybar Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 rip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vashiro Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 25 minutes ago, Kibbelz said: those players who abused the in-game mechanics to a lesser extent have been issued suspensions, with related AP items removed from their accounts. @Kibbelz Does that mean they get to keep their current accumulated AP and Rank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qyburn-DN Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Better outcome than what I expected, though we don't have the exact details.. there's still some hope. Let's get the hackers next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoloranger Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 hmmmm ... the guiltiest players, from AN HERO and AN VILLIAN, still top the Abyss rankings. If they've been banned, would they still be there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lube Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Fungie said: @Kibbelz nice job with ban waves! totally off topic, but does Aion Classic not get a anniversary event too like retail? yea what fungie said! good job with the bans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vashiro Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Just now, Yoloranger said: hmmmm ... the guiltiest players, from AN HERO and AN VILLIAN, still top the Abyss rankings. If they've been banned, would they still be there? Might take 12h I think to update ranks or until tomorrow, who knows. Depends now wether they stripped Abyss Points from temporary suspended accounts as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceooek-KT Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Great news! Thank you Kibbelz and team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stachee Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Honestly not giving any announcement seems like a bad decision. Maint infos could just include a line with "Number of accounts banned due to AP trading this week: x" if any bans took place. Either way thanks. Hopefully we won't see obvious AP traders still logging in after this.... EDIT: @Kibbelzthey're also being stripped of their AP....right? Because this isn't specified and removing items without removing whatever AP they still have is only going to do half the job in quite a few cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emiya Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Just need to remove the AP traders from the leaderboards. Announcements would be nice if they are just thrown into even a tweet tag. #banwave There's your announcement. But yeah thank you for this info at least. Restores much faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vashiro Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 13 minutes ago, Stachee said: Honestly not giving any announcement seems like a bad decision. Maint infos could just include a line with "Accounts banned due to AP trading this week: x" if any bans took place. Either way thanks. Hopefully we won't see obvious AP traders still logging in after this.... EDIT: @Kibbelzthey're also being stripped of their AP....right? Because this isn't specified and removing items without removing whatever AP they still have is only going to do half the job in quite a few cases. My guess is the stripping AP or not will be depending on the magnitude of damage/trade. I assume people that ate permanent bans are those who currently are super high in ranks of have gotten over millions within weeks while perhaps not so dedicated offenders are on very low ranks speaking below Officers ranks get only their AP items stripped and get a temporary suspension. Someone has shown on the unofficial discord a screenshot where NC specifies that if they get collect a 2nd strike on their account that it leads to a permanent suspension. I think the solution provided is fair and well thought through and I am happy that they've taken their time with the investigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aion Team Arctic Posted September 8, 2021 Author Aion Team Share Posted September 8, 2021 22 minutes ago, Fungie said: @Kibbelz nice job with ban waves! totally off topic, but does Aion Classic not get a anniversary event too like retail? We will be celebrating milestones with Aion Classic as well! But on a different schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoloranger Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Kibbelz said: We will be celebrating milestones with Aion Classic as well! But on a different schedule. when, exactly ... *coughcough* will we be celebrating 1.5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fungie Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Kibbelz said: We will be celebrating milestones with Aion Classic as well! But on a different schedule. Thank you for responding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantrabot Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 @Kibbelz I have to admit I'm very pleasantly surprised by this. The community greatly apprecaites this action and the communication. For extra clarification so that we fully understand the action that has been taken: * PvP combines: were PvP combines removed e.g. PvP weapon under a Lannok etc * Godstones from officer kills, removed? * Stigmas/Consumables, removed? I understand that NC will not want to provide a list of who has been banned, but would it be possible for you to give us the breakdown of perma bans/gear strip numbers on actioned accounts? It is promising to hear that NC will be continuing to do these investigations going forward, but I'm sure we would all like to know when future waves of these happen. It will foster a bit more trust between the community and NC that action is actually being taken. Thanks again, keep punishing these players that are hurting the game we love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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