mastergod-DN Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 they must be really good at aion !!! such class distribution!!! wow!!! very amaze NA recent end-of-season top arena ranks: EU top arena ranks (pic from few days ago, season not yet over, may change): 12 classes in the game btw (imagine if we had painters on NA who knew how to play the game) 1st thread: "dont worry cleric wont be so bad in 7.0 or 7.2 when we have extendables" - cleric apologists easily the least fun class to fight in arena x) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aly-DN Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 What's your point exactly? That a geared cleric is hard to fight? Umm.. yeah. So? If your class is correct on the character you are posting on, most players would rank fighting a spiritmaster right up there in suckage as fighting a cleric. Fear.. fear.. fear.. and for a change more fear! That's just as bad as.. full heal.. full heal.. and even more full heal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallo-DN Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 If you time your fears and cc correctly sms are very unstoppable. I find it funny that sm is complaining about clerics. SMs can drain someone's hp fast during a fear so who is more annoying. I'm surprised that there arent more vandals in top list.... Geared vandals are scary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombiex-DN Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 theres a lot of classes can beat a cleric if u bad u bad git gud bro!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vantheria-DN Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 boy you really out here posting about this while playing a spiritmaster, smh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Secret Cow Level Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Arena of Discipline leaderboard statistics by class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesecake-DN Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Maybe I'm just really tired, but there are only 4 clerics on both screenshots? And a spiritmaster is #2 on both screenshots? Bruh, tf you cryin' 'bout, boi? 2 minutes ago, TheSecretCowLeve-KT said: Arena of Discipline leaderboard statistics by class and that looks very interesting, no sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalPhantomEvil-DN Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 because i dont done my gear +15... waiiit clerics ';..;' But in 5.8 clerics dont work. https://ibb.co/hyZnMyS miss u 5.8 best version <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arhangelos Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 When you feel bad about your class or about your lack of ability to pvp... think that there is always a sorcerer somewhere given up every effort to do pvp. Vandals will dominate it at some point, they are retarded-op Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parabellum-KT Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 Clerics will always be at the top because arenas heavily favor healing classes, being able to fully heal after each fight is a huge advantage specially in the 3rd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briearios Posted November 19, 2019 Share Posted November 19, 2019 *rubs head* A Spiritmaster.. Complaining about another class. Is any other region forums like this? We are unnecessarily buffed this patch and will get stronger. Spiritmaster was supposed to be about damage over time and some genius decided to give us direct damage skills that do a ton of damage as well like stone scour. This is bringing me back bad memories of that thread a few months ago complaining about Spiritmasters by a Ranger and Sin... Ok I guess this is the time.. Let's get this over with. Aethertechs, Songweavers, Templars make threads while you can saying how overpowered another class is. This is seemly your time to shine. Hell we need a Painter in here talking about how hard their class actually is and how skillful they to play in order to kill people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lapis-DN Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 11 hours ago, Aly-DN said: What's your point exactly? That a geared cleric is hard to fight? Umm.. yeah. So? If your class is correct on the character you are posting on, most players would rank fighting a spiritmaster right up there in suckage as fighting a cleric. Fear.. fear.. fear.. and for a change more fear! That's just as bad as.. full heal.. full heal.. and even more full heal. the point is cleric can abuse arena using root, shielding up and running to take arctifacts. it works against 9 out of 12 classes and that way they avoid the entire fight most of the time. They are indeed stronger and top tier in this patch, but they're also abusing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aly-DN Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 And an SM isn't "abusing" when they chain fear? Or a sin isn't abusing when they run out the clock in hide? Most every class can "abuse" in some fashion. And that's because that isn't really abuse. It's just characteristics of those classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vessttemona-KT Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Lapis-DN said: the point is cleric can abuse arena using root, shielding up and running to take arctifacts. it works against 9 out of 12 classes and that way they avoid the entire fight most of the time. They are indeed stronger and top tier in this patch, but they're also abusing OMG God, how dare Clerics do something like that to win the duel, it's not possible!! they should really be banned from any kind of pvp combat!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capa-KT Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Vessttemona-KT said: OMG God, how dare Clerics do something like that to win the duel, it's not possible!! they should really be banned from any kind of pvp combat!!!! agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lapis-DN Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 13 hours ago, Aly-DN said: And an SM isn't "abusing" when they chain fear? Or a sin isn't abusing when they run out the clock in hide? Most every class can "abuse" in some fashion. And that's because that isn't really abuse. It's just characteristics of those classes. all of these mechanics are broken in a 1v1 scenario. If you think clerics are always topping arena rankings due to their gear or pvp skills, I am sure you dont do solo arenas often (or just afk them? hmmm) 11 hours ago, Vessttemona-KT said: OMG God, how dare Clerics do something like that to win the duel, it's not possible!! they should really be banned from any kind of pvp combat!!!! its not about banning, its about balancing. if you're ok with the fact that a class can sucessfuly root you every 10s and run to a thing that give points/advantage, good for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aly-DN Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 29 minutes ago, Lapis-DN said: all of these mechanics are broken in a 1v1 scenario. If you think clerics are always topping arena rankings due to their gear or pvp skills, I am sure you dont do solo arenas often (or just afk them? hmmm) *snip* I didn't say it was only gear. The class mechanics are also what they are. I just don't think calling out clerics when you are an SM is anything other than cry-baby tears. I can get behind saying that the "mechanics are broken" or that the classes are not balance for 1v1. I just can't get behind calling clerics using their skills as "abuse". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lapis-DN Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Aly-DN said: I didn't say it was only gear. The class mechanics are also what they are. I just don't think calling out clerics when you are an SM is anything other than cry-baby tears. I can get behind saying that the "mechanics are broken" or that the classes are not balance for 1v1. I just can't get behind calling clerics using their skills as "abuse". I'm not SM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aly-DN Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 25 minutes ago, Lapis-DN said: I'm not SM The OP is though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSexyHook-KT Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 16 hours ago, Briearios-DN said: This is bringing me back bad memories of that thread a few months ago complaining about Spiritmasters by a Ranger and Sin... and who can blame them ? is not about X class vs Y class, is about facts, and a simple fact is that Fear is the strongest skill in game... oh and don't get me started in the Daevanion version that can bypass any resist skills and that even Fear XFORMS, that is beyond words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vessttemona-KT Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 3 hours ago, Lapis-DN said: its not about banning, its about balancing. if you're ok with the fact that a class can sucessfuly root you every 10s and run to a thing that give points/advantage, good for you then if it is about balancing, dont use your mantras, those extras stats represent an advantage for you that the other clases dont have. if you can't distribute your skills or dont know in what moment to use the great healing pot to prevent movement lock, is your problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GitGud-DN Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 On 11/19/2019 at 8:50 AM, Zombiex-DN said: git gud bro!!! you talkin to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briearios Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 7 hours ago, BigSexyHook-KT said: and who can blame them ? is not about X class vs Y class, is about facts, and a simple fact is that Fear is the strongest skill in game... oh and don't get me started in the Daevanion version that can bypass any resist skills and that even Fear XFORMS, that is beyond words. I am going to go by what I see stated for your character here in the forums and assume you play Templar only. A ranger has 3 resists and sin has 5. The only fear a Spiritmaster can cast extremely fast is instant fear which can be resisted. Also the aoe 0.5 cast fear can be resisted. We can even add remove shock fear to the list as another fear with little or no casting time. A ranger can silence bury a Spiritmaster before he/she can get any of the very long fears out. The combo is usually stun (to bait remove shock) debuff, bury silence, burst, sleep arrow, sleep trap, bury silence and the Spiritmaster is usually talking to their soul healer about the last visit he or she just made there. Lets not even talk about fighting sins with 5 resists. You have to hope that you live through the silence buries and remove shock baits. I don't think you know how hard it is to maneuver around those resists of classes that are your actual counters. I am not going to sit here and say you can't beat a Ranger or Sin but it's pretty darn hard. So yes I thought the thread where the 2 of them complained about a class they counter very silly. The "strongest" skill in the game isn't so strong when you can resist 3 out of 4 of them and also 2 of them have a ridiculous long casting time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vantheria-DN Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 50 minutes ago, Briearios-DN said: assume you play Templar only oh no @BigSexyHook-KT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellish-DN Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Briearios-DN said: I am going to go by what I see stated for your character here in the forums and assume you play Templar only. A ranger has 3 resists and sin has 5. The only fear a Spiritmaster can cast extremely fast is instant fear which can be resisted. Also the aoe 0.5 cast fear can be resisted. We can even add remove shock fear to the list as another fear with little or no casting time. A ranger can silence bury a Spiritmaster before he/she can get any of the very long fears out. The combo is usually stun (to bait remove shock) debuff, bury silence, burst, sleep arrow, sleep trap, bury silence and the Spiritmaster is usually talking to their soul healer about the last visit he or she just made there. Lets not even talk about fighting sins with 5 resists. You have to hope that you live through the silence buries and remove shock baits. I don't think you know how hard it is to maneuver around those resists of classes that are your actual counters. I am not going to sit here and say you can't beat a Ranger or Sin but it's pretty darn hard. So yes I thought the thread where the 2 of them complained about a class they counter very silly. The "strongest" skill in the game isn't so strong when you can resist 3 out of 4 of them and also 2 of them have a ridiculous long casting time. Sins do not have 5 resist skills, sins have 3 resist skills. The .5 cast of fear is almost impossible to resist even with good ping (and it's not a 100% resist, it can hit through FE or AT). Rangers only truly counter SMs, sins it's an event fight assuming equal gear and ability. Let's not talk about the fact that you can bury silence/bind on us easily while also being able to turn us INTO A GRAPE for 10+ seconds. If you play your class to the best ability, and are equal gear with someone you should almost never lose a fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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